A woman who gets an abortion is like an Indian giver

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Get it outa there
     
  2. Chester_Murphy

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    Don't put it in.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yup, it lives off the woman it's in, it's a parasite.

    "Parasite " is not always an insult.



    No, it isn't...a fetus has a parasitic relationship with the woman it's in. Try facts instead of emotion.
     
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    Mistletoe is a parasite. It eventually kills it's host. Tarantuala wasps inject their eggs into a tarantuala they become parasites that eventually kill their hosts. A baby depends on it's mother even after it's born for a time. Eventually that child gives new meaning of life for that mother and when she is old, has the potential to care for that mother. No a child is not a parasite. Hedonistic people are parasitic to the society.
     
  5. Chester_Murphy

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    You read me wrong. I made a case for it being a human and not a mass of nothing. It fights for it's life by fending off the hosts bodies rejection(morning sickness and sometimes miscarriage). It's fighting for it's life because the host recognizes it as something that is not a part of her, but wants to use her for it's own purposes. Therefore, even at such a low level of development, it wants to live. It is human, because it has all the chromosomes a fully grown human has.

    Not all parasites kill their host.

    That's okay, though, because I tend to write that way when I am proving something. I'm sure this will get me in trouble with the other side. Oh well.
     
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    It is if she vues it that way.
     
  7. ibobbrob

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    Whoever put it in should take responsibility. Then there is the issue of the woman bringing it to term
    When she didn’t want a pregnancy.)
     
  8. ibobbrob

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    You too could be a parasite, yes? Depends on interpretation.
     
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    Chester....my reply was not to you. I do agree that a child in development is a human being, but I disagree with that child being called "a parasite". There are haters in this thread that have very little respect for human life. Essentially they are "hedonists". That is who I was addressing. I do not try to always get hung up on words but instead I like to address the "spirit" of what you are saying. Try to understand what I say when I say a child cannot be a parasite.....

    The unborn carries commonality in the DNA of the mother (to which you refer to as the "host") She shares with her child anti-bodies that help to ward off things that would not be healthful to that child. Her body is actually engaged in the protection of that child. It is only a "demented" mind that would choose to do otherwise. Cancer on the other hand could be considered a parasite.because not only does it rob it's host of nourishment but perverts the natural order of things to eventually destroy the host. It cannot exist apart from the host yet it seeks to destroy it. The host naturally sends defenses out in an attempt to defend itself against that parasite.. A child is the natural offspring of its mother and in NO way is it a parasite anymore than a teenager that hangs around home til he's 30 years old and lives with an enabling Mom and Dad.

    I would add that the hedonists in this thread, not you, use the term "parasite" in an attempt to dehumanize a developing child in order to harden their conscience in their striving to destroy that life. It is their agenda.
     
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    Well, it's obvious, if he raped her.
     
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    True, but if it was consensual and she didn't want pregnancy, then what?
     
  12. Chester_Murphy

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    Sorry, that simply means she didn't want a baby if he raped her. It doesn't remove her from responsibility inherent to being a woman.
     
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    It's a blessing to be a woman, not a curse. Along with being a woman comes inherent responsibilities. Men have responsibilities, too.

    Then there is some consideration which needs addressed for the father who may want the child, even though the mother doesn't.
     
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    Then there is consideration which needs to be addressed, concerning how society views those who do not consider one child as a life, then later decide another is, and if they are truly mature enough to raise that child due to their proven lack of respect for life.
     
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    Then consideration needs to be made for those who do not respect life and whether they should be sterilized due to that proven disrespect, so they can never murder another.
     
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    Then there is consideration that needs addressed for those who do not agree with these folks, and why all should pay for those murders.
     
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    Then there is consideration that needs addressed for those who are for it and want to help those who think they need one. They alone should pay for it for all.
     
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    What we have today is not fair for anyone. Is it? Yet, we are a society that believes in "fairness" and "equality". pfft
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yup, it lives off the woman it's in, it's a parasite.

    "Parasite " is not always an insult.

    No, it isn't...a fetus has a parasitic relationship with the woman it's in. Try facts instead of emotion.




    We aren't talking about babies and babies don't depend on their mothers, they depend on anyone who will feed and care for them.





    Eventually? What? How long does that take? To give "new meaning to life" for that mother...that is a bizarre statement...







    Please, WHAT has that bit of crap got to do with the what we were discussing?



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    NO ONE EVER SAID CHILDREN WERE. :roll:

    WHERE do you get all this emotional, factless BS?



    Another bizarre unrelated comment floating around in a whirlpool of factless emotions...


    I see you didn't want to use facts, only emotion.

    We weren't discussing the animal world...

    we were discussing a fetus , NOT children or mistletoe, and how it IS a parasite since it's connected to, lives off, and depends on the woman it's in for it's life.
    THAT makes it a parasite.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yup, it lives off the woman it's in, it's a parasite.

    "Parasite " is not always an insult


    No mater how anyone VIEWS it, the relationship between woman and her fetus is parasitic....


    It's unfortunate that people who are ruled by emotion rather than facts can't get over the fact that "parasite" and "parasitic" are scientific terms and don't always apply to your brother-in-law who lives in your spare room and doesn't pay rent..
     
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    Dude, calling anyone an "Indian giver" isn't very good etiquette as I'm sure you already know.

    As for giving "life", most who have abortions didn't plan to get pregnant. This includes the man who "gives life" with unprotected sex.
     
  22. Chester_Murphy

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    It simply shows that neither is ready to have sex, children or ready to be adults. If they cannot handle the responsibility or will not accept the consequences of their actions. In a society where so much is available with little effort, it seems we forgot to consider maturity.
     
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    I mean, don't put your penis in her, and don't let him, if you are not ready. Rape is not the same as sex. In fact, there could be effort made to prove it isn't, but is really about power and control, like some bdsm.
     
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    Funny , NO one said a child is a parasite....wow, dreamland....





    There is no child, the FETUS however is USING the woman to survive...anyone whose mind isn't clouded in emotion and hate would be able to see that.




    Nope, the billions of women who had abortions since they discovered how are not demented and only a raving sexist would think so.




    Parasites don't always hurt or destroy their hosts but don't EVER let facts or science get in your way. :)



    It doesn't "seek" anything, it can't think....duh...




    Ya, a teen that turns thirty is a miracle AND a parasite..





    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Nothing like a good emotion based factless rant to totally deny science....hilarious...

    Grown ups use the term parasite to describe a parasite.

    I have no need to "dehumanize " a fetus. WHERE did you get that stupid idea?


    A human fetus is human and the woman it's in has every right to abort....I don't need to "harden my conscience"...WTF are you talking about?

    I like the really dramatic "in their striving to destroy life"...oooh, that should've been in a soap opera :)

    Ya, I have this Big Secret Scary Agenda....to fight to keep women's rights to their own bodies..

    .....I'm sure YOU think women having rights is a Bad Agenda but it isn't...
     
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    WHAT! What "responsibility inherent in being a woman""?

    There is NONE.





    (Katz, is that you?)


    OH, I see from all your many posts you really have nothing to say...
     
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