Abilene teenager dies after accidentally shooting himself in head while playing with gun

And all kids are raised to know a speeding car is dangerous

How many die per year in speed related accidents?

 

And in the old days a lot of those kids did not come back

 

Which is why there are “child proof” tablet containers and seat belts for cars and pool fences (mandated here)

If 30 kids choked on a “kinder surprise” each year they would be taken off the market

 

Australia has much stricter rules about that than the US.

Kinder Surprise banned in Australia

 

Beyond a shadow of a doubt. Imo

 

And? Guns also have safties and one should use common sense and use trigger locks and gun safes around kids. Glad we agree that safety precautions are a good thing.

 

I was watching on YouTube on Wednesday a report about the high school I spent 4 years at. It mentions our high school rifle team. We on that team were all Cadets in the California Cadet Corps. We were the state version of the ROTC. I fired many a round at the school rifle range. Frankly I did not encounter even one anti gun teacher. School had about 4000 students when I was there. NEver heard of any of the students being shot either.

 

And also a "fun fact" far more toddlers perished in car crashes, by far. Stop the carnage.

 

This tells thinking folks that something in our society today is deeply off and it's not guns. We no longer have the morals our fathers were raised with.

 

Oh make no mistake, they do want to take away cars eventually, but for other reasons.

It's like gun rights proponents trying to be sarcastic and saying "What're you going to do? Take away knives?"
And then once they get in complete control, they actually begin to do that.

 

I wonder how many kids perish to the Australian Dingo? And what training the parents of those dead children got?

 

90% of Australia's population lives in city areas and has rarely ever spent time in the outback.


(I showed some statistics a while back that 70% of the country's entire population lives within 60km of just four major cities)

 

How many of those deaths can be directly attributed to minors who know speeding motor vehicles are dangerous, but still choose to go joyriding when they do not have an permit to operate a motor vehicle?

 

Trigger locks and other similar devices cannot be utilized unless the firearm is already unloaded to begin with. Even the manufacturers of such devices state such to be the case.

 

It doesn’t seem that simple. It was his friends parents' gun and given the boys were playing with it while the parents were out, they were already breaking any common sense rules they should have known (taught or not). At that point, three teenage boys showing off to each other are unlikely to be sticking to whatever rules they’ve been taught.

On the face of it, the core issue seems to be that the gun was accessible by the kids while the parents were out and that it was stored loaded. Gun owners are responsible for their weapons.

 

"A school district in middle Tennessee is facing backlash from parents and gun safety advocates after National Rifle Association gun safety literature was passed out to elementary school students, reports TV station WZTV....

" 'Rather than emphasize to adults the importance of responsible gun storage, the program puts the onus on children to not pick up any guns,' said a press release from the project. 'Schools should be encouraging parents to practice safe storage and to always ask how guns are stored any place where their child plays.' "
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article221135700.html

Is there any evidence at all that such programs for children actually reduce the number of gun accidents? Why did the 14 year old have access to a gun in the first place?

 

Not my kids. I raced motorcycles and raised my kids to safely drive/ride at 160+MPH. Those speeds on a racetrack are safer than driving the speed limit in the city.

We take the guns to the range and the cars to the racetrack/drag strip.

When my kids were little, we had a neighbor who would not allow her 2 sons to play with toy guns or watch anything with guns on TV. When the boys came in my house and saw toy guns, the ran to pick them up and immediately aimed at each others face and pulled the trigger. "bam bm. I shot you" "youre dead!"

 

And? Your point? It's still an extra layer of safety. If kids find ammo (which they should not be able to) it's still inoperable.

 

Is there any evidence at all that such programs for minors actually increase the number of firearm-related accidents?

Why does it matter?

 

That it amounts to no beneficial purpose. Devices such as a trigger lock merely lull the gullible into believing that mechanical devices are adequate substitutes for parental responsibility and duties, and that it is acceptable to engage in laziness because the mechanical device will pick up their slack for them.

It is not an extra layer of security. It is nothing more than a false sense of safety.

 

A unsecured loaded gun is harmless until mishandled.
In this case, there's no excuse for the people in question to have mishandle said gun, as they are all old enough to know how to safely deal with a loaded gun.
So, no, the core issue is the ignorance of the kinds involved.
Whose fault is that?

 

Did you also research the US for the same group of people?

A reason why so many in America vote with democrats is they have a view from the high balconies of America. They do not live the way millions live. Take my grand daughter and her husband. My son, her father tells me they live like Hillbillies so of course are more interested in smoking pot and drinking than giving the communists a victory.

 

Interestingly, Sarah Brady became involved in gun politics because of an irresponsible gun owner who left his loaded gun lying around where children could easily access it:

"On a late summer’s evening in 1985, she phoned the National Rifle Association headquarters and left a blunt message: 'My name is Sarah Brady, and you’ve never heard of me, but I am going to make it my life’s ambition to try to put you all out of business.'....

"But it wasn’t her husband’s shooting that led Mrs. Brady to call the NRA. The turning point for her activism came four years later, when their 6-year-old son, Scott, found what he thought was a toy gun and pointed it at his mother. She told him never to point a gun at anyone and, when he handed it to her, she found to her horror that it wasn’t a toy but a fully loaded .22 similar to the one used to shoot her husband.

“ 'The maddest I’ve ever been in my life,' she told The Washington Post of the gun incident with her son that occurred during a visit to her husband’s home town in Centralia, Ill. 'I was livid.' "
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...9cc2e0-da48-11e4-ba28-f2a685dc7f89_story.html

Gun safety education for children can not compensate for adult gun owners behaving recklessly.

 

And firearm-related restrictions cannot do anything when someone simply refuses to abide by them.

 

This is just off the top of my head, from vague memory, and I might be wrong, but I think I remember something like 65% of America's population live in city areas, including higher population density suburban areas. Something like half America's population lives in 3% of its area.

It's interesting to look at a population density map and see how in some regions of the country the population is much more concentrated into small city areas than in other regions of the country. And not surprisingly, this is a strong predictor of political orientation of each state.