Aborted Baby Brains were disected by High School Students

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WATCH: College official confirms aborted baby brains were dissected by high school students


    A video has surfaced that confirms allegations that staff from the University of New Mexico used brains of aborted babies for dissection by high school students at a summer camp.

    The "fetal tissue" was between 27 to 28 weeks gestation. (Another news story: Baby Survives at 24 weeks)

    Southwestern Women's Options clinic is the sole provider of "aborted infant tissue" to the UNM Health Sciences Center.

    A patient abortion consent form obtained from the Southwestern Women's Options Center states that: "pregnancy tissue may be used in medical research."

    New Mexico has some of the most liberal abortion laws in the nation. It's the only state where there is no gestational age restriction on when a woman can have an abortion.

    These are our best and brightest kids, some of them future doctors, doing an anatomical dissection of brains. Hope it enriches their educational experience.
     
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    I say let the material be used for science and education. It's not like where it ends up has any bearing on the mother's decision to have the abortion.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh then maybe you would care to donate YOUR brain to high school students at a summer camp.
     
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    I’m not clear what your specific objection is here. Is it that it was for high school pupils and it wouldn’t be an issue for university medical students? Is it that the material was from abortions rather than born patients and it wouldn’t have been an issue if they’d used the brains of deceased adults (or children for that matter)? Or do you object due to the legal issue surrounding consent (presuming you even spotted that aspect)? Or is this just an “it’s said abortion so it must be bad” and you didn’t actually give it much thought before reacting?
     
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    You get that there are differences between an adult brain and a fetal brain, yes?
     
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    :) Your last sentence is obviously the correct one :)
     
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    I have already donated my body (after death) for medical research....and hope it IS used for enriching someone's educational experiences...


    Dead bodies have been used for hundreds of years to learn more about how they function and how to fight disease...….we ALL have benefitted from dead body parts whether it sounds "nice" or not..
     
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    When I'm dead they can have mine. Not sure what the issue is.
     
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    Better than ending up in the scrap bucket.
     
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    why not?
     
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    I've already told my wife that if there's something useful that can be done with my remains, do it. In the absence of that, cremation(for cost purposes, the casket and burial industry is a huge rip-off).

    Wouldn't you want your remains to be put to an actual beneficial use instead of just destroyed or buried?
     
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    There is no real issue......the OP has about as much relevance as the thread on Panda bear gestation......
     
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    I am more concerned about the possible infection control breach this might represent

    In a word PRIONS

    Handling brain tissue would put everyone at risk

    https://www.occupationalhealthprogram.ucsf.edu/Forms/Prion_Exposure_Protocol_2016_FINAL.pdf
     
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    It does kind of stretch the credulity of the pro-choice "the fetus does not have a brain" argument.
     
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    At the early stage the fetus doesn't have a brain.

    When it has a brain it doesn't start functioning as a brain right away...just as it's lungs don't function normally until it's born and breathes air....


    See, the word gestation means the ZEF grows, has stages of development........it isn't a fully formed Gerber baby from conception....( I felt I had to explain that :roll: ).
     
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    But all the parts are there for high school students to dissect. a HUMAN brain.
     
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    Which did not happen

    Cannot happen

    Because you would run very far afoul of the CDC

    Google prion diseases
     
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    As a liberal, I can tell you that is totally untrue. Aborted baby brains would never be allowed to be dissected by high school students. If we allowed that, what would we spread on our toast? :psychoitc:

    :hiding:
     
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    Your cited video does...confirm the allegations were made, not that the allegations were true.

    Secondly, as to your claim that New Mexico has some of the most liberal abortions laws is irrelevant. Even if New Mexico does not have any gestational time period for Abortions in their state laws...The federal government's 20 week ban is the law of the land and is law in New Mexico as well as every other state.
     
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    So what? Human brains have been dissected for years. Human bodies have been dissected for years.....what was your point again??

    Sorry , but this sounds like an attempt to go back to pre 20th century ideas of science as evil....
     
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    They should compare it with live brains,
    They can get them from condemned prisoners. or democrats.
     
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    Yup, because Democrat brains are alive and Republican brains have basically flatlined....:) They aren't even good for research.
     
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    The problem is the huge amount of democrats they have to kill, to get a pound of brains.
     
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    And Republicans have none to offer...


    Want to go on with the childish insults or use those HUGE Repub brains to address the topic? :)
     
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    You're being incredibly one-sided in your consistent attempts to find fault with those who choose abortions. How about considering the effects on individuals who choose not to have abortions, then later find themselves and their child relegated by circumstances to our nation's poorest communities, where gangs rule, and life is a living hell? In such cases, what "good" do you do for that fetus? Also, why do Pro-Lifers care so much for the fetus before birth, but care nothing about that child after delivery? I don't get that.
     
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