Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Whaler17, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Does an apple feel pain when you take a bite out of it?

    An apple feels no pain because it has no pain receptors

    A fetus feels no pain because it has no pain receptors until the end of the 2nd trimester.

    Furthermore all 2nd and 3rd trimesters are done under ANESTHESIA which automatically numbs the entire fetus so even if it could feel pain it is prevented from doing so.

    Those are FACTS that you can research for yourself but you won't because you don't want to disabuse your confirmation bias.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That is wrong as explained in detail in post #352.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not true. The pain receptors exist long before that. What is questioned are whether the connections are there in the brain, and before that the nervous system, to be able to feel it.

    The fetus may be able to sense pain but it may be on the most basic level. It is questioned whether the fetus's brain has developed enough to interpret those pain signals as distressing and perceive pain. That's the argument, as best I understand it.

    Plus, even if the fetus reacts to pain, pro-choicers claim that is not evidence that it is in distress.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    When a dentist gives you novacaine can you still feel the pressure of the drill on your tooth?

    Pressure is NOT pain!

    That your confirmation bias is preventing you from dealing with reality is not my problem.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, let me rephrase. When they crush the skull of the fetus it just feels "pressure".
     
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    Now you are fallaciously ASSUMING that the fetus is awake.

    The anesthesia given to an adult would be more than sufficient to cause a fetus to feel nothing at all.
     
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    What about those people who know no God? They may not agree with you.
     
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    No, a fetus , at the time of most abortions can feel no pain.
     
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    For pete's sake, abortion doesn't last for hours so WTF even if a fetus could feel anything it's dead before it would even register...


    Are you aware that abortion doesn't last for hours ...did you really think it did ?

    Did you think the women lays there for hours while a doctor tortures a fetus...What a WEIRD thing to think....almost as weird as thinking panda bears have something to do with abortion ALL whacky!!

    Now the "Biggie"...it does not matter what the fetus feels or doesn't feel , it has no rights and the woman can remove it at anytime she chooses.
     
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    How can YOU deny science and be sure they do? YOU use your "science " and prove they do , go ahead , I'll wait :)…..and then let me know WTF that has to do with a woman's right to her own body....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Ya, just like Anti-Choicers consider women to be non-persons...


    BTW, your trite and oft debunked crap about Hitler sure denigrates what Jews suffered , makes light of it by comparing it to the quick painless death of a fetus....that's sick.




    FIRST I included the part of my post you ignored :) The part where you minimize and denigrate what real living person Jews, suffered and went through

    Second:

    How can YOU deny science and be sure they do? YOU use your "science " and prove they do , go ahead , I'll wait :)…..and then let me know WTF that has to do with a woman's right to her own body....
     
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    If your "god" created everything HE created miscarriages ( ABORTIONS), wars ( slaughtering millions of children and pregnant women !!), He created children born with awful deformities and illnesses causing CHILDREN life long pain and suffering...…he wants them put in cages because their skin is brown...

    ...and now you think your "god" cares about an aborted fetus?? Ya, right...…...
     
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    Just because you believe in the supernatural invisible man in the sky doesn’t mean anything to me. You can’t slaughter a zygote
     
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    I realize this ;)
     
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    That's on them, but they will experience eternal punishment for their unbelief.
     
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    And you will be dead...gone...six feet under . But believing you’ll be in the sky with angels and some guy will meet you at pearly gates makes you feel better...so be it. I think allah is going to make me a virgin
    I always ask.....why would a loving god punish someone with eternal hell because she didn’t believe he existed. I told my students if they didn’t worship me, they would rot in 7th grade for eternity
     
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    Yes, and when they’re born you can put them in Cages and fight for them to lose healthcare and food. We just have different values. You stop caring at birth
     
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    Or perhaps they are right in their views and you are wrong. That would be a terrible disappointment to you I'm sure.
     
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    Baloney….( NOTED: How you denigrate what liberals in the military have done for you, how you think they never sacrificed or did their duty and had no honor as they defended YOU and YOUR country....that's despicable!!!!!!!)


    Where is the law against selfishness?
     
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    Spot on. The thing I find most amazing is that most pro-life people will fight to the death to preserve the life of a fetus, however once it is born it can die for all they care if it involves the expenditure of monies.
     
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    :roflol::applause::applause::roflol: OH NO! NOT 7th grade forever!!!! :)


    Although when we're in here doesn't it sometimes feel like 7th grade......I mean there's even threads on panda bears!!!
     
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    Oh My....it would seem your imagined God has decided I need to be punished for standing up for fellow humans even though I have no womb. I is ascared an dunna wanna be spanked by your fantasy man...Puleeze tell him I is sowwy.
     
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    Wrong as usual. Only the fool says there is no God. I will be in Heaven and eternal glory with my Heavenly Father not because of anything I did to earn it, but because of what Christ did for me.
     
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    So you say? Depends on whose God you believe in I suppose. You go ahead and believe in the faith of your acceptance and I'll believe in the faith of my acceptance and we'll both be happy.
     
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    So you would reject the immutable Absolute Truth of Scripture.
     

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