Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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    Since when did a fertilised egg become a citizen?
     
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    Even though the following refers to "men" it also means women, too. THEY also have the right to life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness whether anyone likes it or not..


    """"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.""
     
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    Hey you are the one supporting a person who thinks there were airports in the civil war...:)...and keeps children in dog kennels..
     
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    :) Still no proof.....and Republicans have abortions, too :)
     
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    It is a video and given “Lila Rose” “project veritas” and CMP have all been found doctoring videos why would I waste my time?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_2015_undercover_videos_controversy
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lila_Rose
    Facts! We pilot always into an unknown future facts are our only clue. Get the facts!
     
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    Have you shown yet how an embryo or fetus can be taken out of the woman to grow on it's own? You know, how it is a separate entity from the women it's in??
     
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    These rights come from GOD. Doesn't matter if the person is in the womb or not.

    Lets look at the last few lines of the DoI:

    Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    In your opinion what is divine providence?
     
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    I want to see one that can vote, drive a car and smoke a cigarette.........ooops! Now THAT just triggered a weird mental image :p
     
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    Since when did "god" write the DOI ?
     
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    It's seperate DNA from the mother. After the egg is fertilized, any attempt to kill it after that point is considered abortion and murder. The

    The right to life comes from God, and it applies to any life no matter how old or how young. No, you cannot impose your own "laws" on an inalienable right from God.

    People seem to think that the decision to have sex in the first place SHOULD NOT be addressed, rather we should just KILL THE LIFE of the unborn child as opposed to hold the mother accountable for her actions. Yes, this speaks to the heart of the issue. Democrats and liberals refuse to be held accountable and they promote this idea in virtually every aspect of life (including abortion).

    Lets talk about abortion methods? Which one's do you consider the most "humane" lol
     
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    More videos!

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    You are on a hiding to nothing here mate because I am an atheist Aussie! :p

    But I will give you this rebuttal

    Explain divine providence in relation to the fact that up to 70% of fertilised eggs fail to develop past the first three months
     
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    That is their rightful future. Abortion takes that way. Abortion goes against everything laid out by our founding fathers and is a violation of the 14th amendment.
     
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    Not all DNA forms a “human being”

    Chromosomal abnormalities found in first trimester miscarriages
    Description Proportion of total
    Normal 45–55%
    Autosomal trisomy 22–32%
    Monosomy X (45, X) 5–20%
    Triploidy 6–8%
    Structural abnormality of
    the chromosome 2%
    Double or triple trisomy 0.7–2.0%[43]
    Translocation Unknown[44]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage
     
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    You DOI says not one thing about potential people, in fact it says nothing about women only “men”
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Have you shown yet how an embryo or fetus can be taken out of the woman to grow on it's own? You know, how it is a separate entity from the women it's in??


    NO, you cannot impose YOUR interpretation of "god" onto others...
     
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    Boy you abortionist enthusiasts will come up with any reason to justify the sick practice of abortion.
    The sanctity of life was something our founding fathers understand very well, clearly you do not.

    The moral problem comes into play when you INTENTIONALLY come in and destroy that life for selfish reasons.

    Yes, barren women have a much more fulfilling life than a woman who chooses motherhood. LOL SUCH LIES
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    Oh so when they say the right to life is an inalienable right, what does this mean to you?
     
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    Im merely repeating what our founding fathers would tell you. They would be very angry if they could see what the liberal left is doing to this nation. Absolutely sickening supporting the murder of unborn babies. and now, born alive babies.
     
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    Bowerbird said:
    More videos!

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    You are on a hiding to nothing here mate because I am an atheist Aussie! :p

    But I will give you this rebuttal

    Explain divine providence in relation to the fact that up to 70% of fertilised eggs fail to develop past the first three months




    WHERE in the post you quoted were "barren women" mentioned ??
     
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    What “selfish reasons”?

    I have seen the research on why women choose abortion but I wonder if you have?

    Ps you dodged

    Why does God abort approx 70% of all conceptions?
     
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    NOT AN AMERICAN!

    Now explain to ME why I should not be pro choice
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Have you shown yet how an embryo or fetus can be taken out of the woman to grow on it's own? You know, how it is a separate entity from the women it's in??


    NO, you cannot impose YOUR interpretation of "god" onto others...


    :) Gee, you speak for "god" and speak for our founding fathers....do you ever let them talk?

    At the time of our "founding fathers abortions were legal..


    Now, can you address the post you quoted ???????


    Have you shown yet how an embryo or fetus can be taken out of the woman to grow on it's own? You know, how it is a separate entity from the women it's in??


    NO, you cannot impose YOUR interpretation of "god" onto others...
     
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    There is always room for more progressive reform.
    Perhaps it's time to give parents the right to abort their children under the age of 35.
    We could call it the Second Thoughts Amendment.
     
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    It's not my interpretation of "God" its the Founding fathers interpretation....

    What does
    We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights mean to you?
     

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