Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Uh, are you addressing me?


    Yes, bodily autonomy is a basic human right...everyone should have it..... even women despite what Anti-Choicers say....

    Banning abortion, taking away women's right to their own body is denying them bodily autonomy.

    I have asked many times, " what group will be next "? What group will someone hate enough to take away their right to their own body once the ball is rolling.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YUPPERS! If Anti-Choicers have their evil way and get abortion banned women would lose their right to bodily autonomy.

    Then, since a precedence is set, who would be the next group somebody doesn't like who gets THEIR right to bodily autonomy taken away ????








    Why did you quote my post if you didn't want to address what was written in it ?????????

    Don't want a baby? Have an abortion. :)

    A "lax in judgement " is a "very selfish decision" ??? What??!!

    NO ONE IS OBLIGATED TO USE BIRTH CONTROL and LIKE ALL YOUR OTHER CLAIMS YOU HAVE NEVER PROVEN THEY ARE.




    Trying to take away half the population's right to bodily autonomy , LIKE THE NAZIS DID, is the epitome of evil.





    Calling oneself American is evil !!! Well, that 's just sick !!!

    Trying to destroy rights is not very American...in fact it's VERY UN-American!! And Anti-American




    Nothing to do with women's right to their own bodies....


    And your ridiculous " God creates, Satan kills" is as silly and illogical as everything else involving religion.....
     
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    What are you trying to say? What is it you wish to do with your body that you can't do? What??
     
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    A right to control my own reproduction which includes the right to an abortion if needed
     
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    Practice:
    -- abstinence
    -- condoms
    -- birth control pills

    As long as you pay for it, nobody cares.
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    Why? Preaching abstinence hasn't worked for about 10,000 years...why do you think it would work now?

    NO one is obliged to give up sex.


    NO one is obligated to use BC.



    Why should women not have health insurance that covers prescription drugs?

    Why should women pay out of their own pockets for what others receive under their medical insurance?
     
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    Get an abortion! What TF do you think we're talking about ??!!



    Yes, bodily autonomy is a basic human right...everyone should have it..... even women despite what Anti-Choicers say....

    Banning abortion, taking away women's right to their own body is denying them bodily autonomy.

    I have asked many times, " what group will be next "? What group will someone hate enough to take away their right to their own body once the ball is rolling.
     
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    Nutso.

    On the positive side, you're making all of feminism look ridiculous.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    And it NEVER fails

    Condoms as birth control.......

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

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    Failure rate of 18 means that 18 out of one hundred women relying on the male condom for contraception will get pregnant. That is 18 unwanted pregnancies. That is 18 women considering, at least momentarily an abortion

    The only reliable methods to reduce abortion are long acting reversible contraception but they are expensive. One of the things planned parenthood is known for doing is providing this sort of contraception
     
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    Whilst so many on this forum continue to display and abysmal lack of knowledge in relation to basic information
     
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    That is your response?!

    "Nutso" ? That's the best you can do? That's all Anti-Choicers have ?? :) :)

    Can you explain what feminism has to do with it?

    Can you explain what feminism is ?

    Can you explain what "bodily autonomy" is?

    Why can't you address the questions/issues/facts in the posts ?
     
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    I support it as they are medical reasons. What would you do if it was a choice between your wife and her fetus? My friend said that painful decision because her fetus would be born with its brain outside and would die shortly ...Do you think you have the right to tell her what she should do
     
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    people who are pro choice do more for life than those who care more about a zygote than born children
     
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    These are the same people who want to take away healthcare and food stamps from poor children. No you’re not pro life , you’re just anti-choice
     
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    No, it's reliant on the mother for life. If the baby was removed from the mother, it would die. Does the baby stay in the womb for the rest of it's natural life? That would be the only scenario in which a mother could claim the fetus is part of her body. Obviously, it doesnt work that way.

    Autonomy Is the free choice to make any decision you want regarding your body and how you use your body. Nobody in this nation has the explicit right to total body autonomy.

    Killing American's before they have a chance to live their life?
    Abortion is about as anti-american as you can get.
     
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    Sure, just after you prove all late term abortions are an either or, scenario. It's no longer a zygote.
     
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    And just because there is a fertilised egg does not make it a super being. The woman must continue to have primacy in relation to rights over her body pregnant or not. Since in law she has more right to body autonomy than the foetus she can safeguard herself by removing something she does not wat
     
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    Quote one, prove it. Weak strawman, try harder.
     
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    I am Pro Choice, but fair enough. Maybe you know me better than I do myself.

    This is just an ad hominem and you know it. It is "arguments" like this one that destroys the abortion debate. Pro Lifers are guilty of the same crime when they claim Pro Choicers are promurder.

    Just stop it already.
     
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    Since I am not against abortion on legal terms, I am - per definition - "Pro Choice". Furthermore, my anti-government leanings make me even more Pro Choice than most Pro Choicers since I support unregulated choice in all aspects of life and not only when it comes to abortion.

    If we really want to have an adult and constructive discussion about the matter it is important that we do not use insults such as "Anti Choice" or "Anti Life" and instead respect each other's differing opinions and try to understand where our opponent is coming from while making our own case.

    In my opinion, a woman is more than her reproductive system and I consider it vastly misogynistic to reduce her to a pile of eggs. If men treat her with respect, the risk of her being unwillingly pregnant are drastically reduced. As the old-fashioned and simple minded man that I am, I think the cure for this problem is love.

    And nooo, this does not mean that I am advocating "forced marriage" or "forced abstinence". If you think it does, your reading comprehension is absolute garbage.
     
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    It's how she rolls.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Can you explain what "bodily autonomy" is?"""


    NO ANSWER





    YES, because it is part of , and attached to, the woman it is in.

    It USES HER body to sustain it's life in a parasitic relationship.



    IF it isn't part of her body then it should be able to be taken out and develop on it's own.


    Do you know anything about what pregnancy is???





    Bodily autonomy means no one can FORCE you to give them a heart or a kidney. NO one can use your body to sustain their life.

    YOU want fetuses to have more rights than BORN humans!!!!


    Yes, if the woman doesn't want to bring a "life" into this world, she doesn't have to.

    Uh, one isn't an American until one is born :)


    Nope, the right to Life , Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and the right to bodily autonomy for EVERYONE is American.


    Destroying other's right because you don't like what they do, is ANTI-AMERICAN.

    FoxHastings said:
    Trying to destroy rights is not very American...in fact it's VERY UN-American!! And Anti-American
     
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    Want weak? Try post # 1458...:)
     
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    :applause:


    Nailed it! :applause:
     
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    Another :applause::applause: There's even some who have no clue what pregnancy entails but desperately want women forced to gestate...
     

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