About 100 Russian milityry personal now in Venezuela!

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Mandelus, Mar 26, 2019.

  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Soem days ago was the media report on page 4 that 2 of these big Russian tranport planes landed in Venezuela with aid goods and also 95 (?) military personal on board.

    Now comes the bad reaction from the US on it:

    https://www.rt.com/news/454764-bolton-venezuela-hostile-powers-russia/




    THAT is the pinnacle of American insolence, hypocrisy and megalomania!
    For this statement and what this warmonger Bolton said on Twitter, he should actually be fired ... if the US were currently ruled by any reasonable government and a president with some sense of reality and brain in head!



    But this is not the case as we know...

    Seriously...
    The United States unabashedly "dance" in the front yard of the Russians for 20 years, simply because they think to have the right to do so and they mean exclusive to decide what is right and wrong ... and in the US no one thinks bad of it ... particularly not these "I hate Russia cold war dinosaurs" who find it great!

    Now Russia is doing right the same thing vice versa in a country with which it has the same "friendly relationships", such as the US has with Georgia ... and where is a comparable situation ... and the US is spitting fire and gall because of annoyance now.

    Such a hypocritical behavior as the US show again and again is really breathtaking!
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2019
    Jeannette and Moi621 like this.
  2. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,811
    Likes Received:
    8,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male



    Russia, former SU, has pissed in our backyard long before we sniffed around in their backyard.....Cuba, Nicaragua, .....so by them accusing the US is a bit disingenuous.

    So Maduro can't trust his own military.....no surprise, too busy defecting to Guido?

    So you got non existent Wagner's, 100 servicemen.....they must loading up the gold that Maduro stashed.....iIunderstand he's on the hook for a shitload$$$ to the kremlin porch monkey.

    Good target practice for the Marines/Seals/Delta when they land!
     
  3. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    What if Commander in Chief Trump orders a Marine rifle squad (13 U.S. Marines) to stand by off shore of Venezuela, what will Russia response be ???

    Sending 10,000 Russian troops in response to the threat ?
     
  4. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,811
    Likes Received:
    8,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    Their aircraft carrier is in Port all ****ed up....their dry dock is at the bottom. Theyve no way to get there.

    Putinka wont go to war so close to US backyard.
     
  5. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Messages:
    10,291
    Likes Received:
    13,163
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ilhan Omar insisted that she's vehemently opposed a military invasion of Venezuela.

    Ilhan Omar pipes up to criticize Russia in 3... 2... 1...

    never.

    If it ain't Trump, she could give a crap.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2019
  6. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Messages:
    11,951
    Likes Received:
    7,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Yeah I saw this a couple of days ago. I think Bolton's response is very telling though, more of a "our half of earth (half used loosely) must be "democratic" pro American, with American "security" and abide by our "rule of law".
    He's usually not ambiguous... straight forward on his goals and how he believes they should be achieved therefore this comment does not come as surprise.

     
  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    All you have to do is look at all of the new Russian warships being built. Frigates, corvettes.

    All are for regional operations.

    The warships are blue water capable but Putin plans are regional not global.

    Putin wants to be recognized as a regional power.

    Russia has always wanted to be a maritime power but Russians don't make good sailors.

    You would have thought Russia would have learned their lesson when the Japs sank the Russian navy in 1905.
     
  8. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2015
    Messages:
    28,121
    Likes Received:
    19,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe the Russians can maintain order. The people want Maduro out. Civil war is possible. Maybe the Russians can keep a lid on the violence and allow for a peaceful transition of power into a post-Maduro era.
     
  9. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    100 Russians - too little to meaningfully impact anything in Venezuela. I bet they are just going to be Maduros bodyguards - he doesn’t seem to trust his own. Maybe they are there to make sure he makes it to the aircraft in case things get hot so that he can flee to Russia.
     
  10. MrFirst

    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    533
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Russian deployment in Venezuela includes 'cybersecurity personnel': U.S. official

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Russian military contingent that arrived in Venezuela over the weekend, drawing U.S. condemnation, is believed by the U.S. government to be made up of special forces including “cybersecurity personnel,” a U.S. official told Reuters on Tuesday.

    The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the United States was still assessing the Russian deployment, which Washington has called a “reckless escalation” of the situation in Venezuela.

    Two Russian air force planes landed outside Caracas on Saturday carrying nearly 100 Russian troops, according to local media reports, two months after the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump disavowed Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-russians-idUSKCN1R72FX
     
    alexa likes this.
  11. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    That makes sense. That have had another attack on their electricity

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news...s&utm_campaign=NewsletterIngles&utm_content=8

    Cyber security is what people say will be the major method of war in the near future - and the US has shown it is up for that against Venezuela. Given that the military and the vast majority of the people of Venezuela, regardless of their political views are against a Coup and US intervention, the US will no doubt be intending its war that way.
     
  12. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Unbelievable

    https://www.rt.com/news/454764-bolton-venezuela-hostile-powers-russia/
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2019
    MrFirst likes this.
  13. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol ... The US placed in Turkey direct to USSR border their Atals missiles and USSR respnds with the same in their ally and freind Cuba.
    US milled around in Asia like mad and also in Iran next to USSR border by supporting this bastard of Shah ... and USSR dies the same in Nicaragua!

    Sorry ... get out of Georgia and the Ukraine, then you may have a right to be upset about it in the US!

    I guess the 100 Russians are laughing at the Marines stomachache pain ... because as far as I know, these are special forces. And if the Squad Marines thinks they play cowboy and Indiana, the Russians will teach them the Russian version!
     
    Jeannette and MrFirst like this.
  14. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    16,811
    Likes Received:
    8,624
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male



    Funny....I don't recall the vatniks "laughing" after they were chopped liver in syria year ago:roflol:, and many of those were spec ops, nice try.....more like theyre there to cover Maduraks ass since his military is slowly defecting....and couch monkey Putinka wants the gold assets, since Maduro owes him big time.:laughing:

    Get outta ukraine/georgia?.....Why? Does muscovia "own" them or something? Last iIchecked the SU crumbled and everybody bailed and went independent?

    Seems more like Muscovia has recovering alcoholic syndrome...LOL.


    Cuba was never really an ally/friend for vatniks.....more like a convenient "idiot".....to stick soviet missiles.....nothing more.:)).
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2019
  15. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Most Marine riflemen are (SpecOp-Capable)
     
    zoom_copter66 likes this.
  16. MrFirst

    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    533
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Actually, the development of Russian navy has financial and technical limitations. We don't have enough money, we don't have enough shipyards, we don't have enough engines for ships, as the production plant which produces engines for warships was left in Ukraine. Launching production of such engines in Russia takes a lot of time.

    Anyway, nobody is going to send navy to Venezuela, I'm pretty sure. Only maybe some submarines and small surface reconnaissance ships - to protect freedom of navigation in these waters.
     
    APACHERAT likes this.
  17. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh ... someone who thinks the Russians have nothing and can't nothing?

    I know ... maybe an ARG with a MEU(SOC), eh?
    But you know that these Russians are no militia men?
     
  18. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hypocrisy and double-standards are the foundation of US foreign policy. It is symptomatic of an empire in decline. Unfortunately, when empires decline, they rarely go quietly. Instead, they thrash about violently and erratically, harming others in the process.
     
    Jeannette, alexa and Mandelus like this.
  19. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Russian forces are in Venezuela at the invitation of that country's government. Ergo, it's not an invasion.

    So much for your attempt to highlight Omar's hypocrisy.
     
    clg311 and alexa like this.
  20. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And who appointed you the spokesperson for "the people" of Venezuela?

    The Russians are there to protect Maduro from a US coup attempt, just like they protected Assad from a US coup attempt.

    And just as there was no post-Assad era in Syria, there will be no "post-Maduro era" in Venezuela.

    Because contrary to your CIA talking points, "the people" are behind Maduro and have no interest in the self-declared "president" Guaido.
     
  21. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Russia thwarted the US coup attempt in Syria and they'll do the same in Venezuela. And they'll do it economically and efficiently, with a minimal investment of resources. I love watching Russia confound the neocon criminals infecting the US government. Bolton, Pompeo and Abrams are a trifecta of evil and incompetence. They are historic failures and embarrassments. And their attempt to subjugate Venezuela will fail thanks in part to Russia's involvement there.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2019
    clg311 likes this.
  22. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Messages:
    19,496
    Likes Received:
    9,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Seems Americans support democracies, and wannabe democracies, while Russia supports dictatorships. Nothing new there.
     
    zoom_copter66 likes this.
  23. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was a Marine rifleman. And trust me... the average Marine rifleman has no business going up against Russian special operations.
     
  24. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Messages:
    19,496
    Likes Received:
    9,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why would 'the people' be behind Maduro? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/americas/venezuela-support-maduro-guaido.html
     
  25. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    lol

    Is that why the US is supporting the thuggish regime in Saudi Arabia?

    The US government doesn't care about "democracy". It's an imperialist government that regularly crushes democracy while aiding and abetting some of the worst abusers of human rights on the planet.

    The nobility of US foreign policy is a risible mythology.
     
    Giftedone, Jeannette and alexa like this.

Share This Page