You have yet to accept any pictures from any source bob,just simply hand waving them away..... Why do you keep insisting we provide you with something you won't accept?
re-read the specification, its VERY simple all I am asking for is a picture of the rubble pile at ground zero taken the same day ( 9/11/2001 ) and having a time & date & photographers name attached and also a location such as a street corner or land-mark as a reference for where the photographer was standing. standard DOCUMENTARY data. nothing so super special here, and in all cases of large freeway pile-ups, or traffic crashes involving fatalities, there is a photographer who as an employee of the city or county, on-duty to document the scene. WHY was 9/11/2001 so poorly DOCUMENTED?
<broken record time> 9/11/2001 was NOT poorly documented,just because YOU can't find the pictures in no way means they don't exist.....Nor is it up to us to provide them for you
Thank you ever so much, a coffee table book of a collection of pix that were taken after the clean up operation was well under way does not constitute documentation of the crime scene.
And 5000+ pictures is hardly a 'coffee table book',And Meyerowitz petitioned to be allowed to document the towers and cleanup within days of the collapse...
A: within days of the collapse doesn't = documenting the results of the collapse. B: a "petition" is simply a request & WHY should it be that the news media and in fact every photographer in this world, would have to beg permission from the authorities to document something that should be public domain? There is something VERY wrong with this picture!
Because Bob,It was a CRIME SCENE cleanup and rescue started immediately,so there was no time it wasn't ongoing
"The FBI has them" You are absolutely certain of this? have you seen the pix? if so, are they published any place or is there some super secret inner circle that has the pix and you just happen to be part of that group?
So obviously YOU haven't seen the INFORMATION or you processed an FOIA and are keeping the info to yourself. If indeed you have NOT seen the data, then all you have is an assumption about what may have happened without any evidence to back it up. at least the "truther" side has the facts about how the towers & 7 "collapsed" and the anomalies of the whole hijacked airliner fiasco ..... what PROOF exists to support the official story, you keep going on about how I need to submit an FOIA request, but if this data really isn't readily available, how is it that you are so certain that whatever the FOIA request reveals, would be compelling evidence for the official story?
Why are you afraid to look at the evidence and pictures for yourself? Go right to the source, truth seeker.
Here is the problem I have with this whole fiasco, the pictures are allegedly ONLY available upon specific request, its not like you can go to the public library and find a book of documentary pix, you gotta make a special request for said pix ( if they exist at all ) and apparently YOU have such a low standard for evidence that simply seeing one of the talking heads on TV tell you that it really was an attack by 19 fanatics flying airliners into buildings, you bought it completely ..... right?
Wrong. I looked into all of the evidence. Going directly to the source is too hard for you? Apparently YOU have such a low standard for evidence that simply seeing one of the talking heads on YouTube tell you that it really wasn't an attack by 19 fanatics flying airliners into buildings, you bought it completely ..... right?
so allegedly YOU have submitted FOIA requests for INFORMATION and have then kept secret all the INFORMATION that you have? is this the case? Did you have to sign some sort of secrecy agreement as a condition of being able to see the "real" info?
I don't have to keep any secrets. Neither do you: simply submit an FOIA request for the photos. Simple, really.
Yep, you nailed it. He signed a sheet that said he had to keep it secret, to which he is posting about it on a public forum that, literally, anyone can read. Maybe you don't know what the meaning of secret is?
If the INFORMATION, that is the bits that would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that 19 fanatics hijacked 4 airliners and crashed 3 of them into buildings, IF this INFORMATION were real, why isn't it readily available, and why do people who obviously have not seen said INFORMATION insist that its real and its compelling evidence? What motivates people, on so little real evidence, to believe that story about the 19 fanatical hijackers?
So how "readily available" is data that must be asked for from a bureaucracy that is known for hiding information, and not granting FOIA requests? This alleged "transparency" of government really isn't, on that point alone, why are not more people MAD AS HELL (?) what is going on around here? Do tell, have YOU processed a request and indeed was it granted and in a timely manner and exactly what did it cost $$$$ you? and having obtained this info, is it compelling evidence that 19 fanatics hijacked airliners ........ ( etc ... ) ?
