Ive blown his "only 4.5 million Jews under Nazi control" myth out of the water...and yet he keeps posting it. why? its called "trolling"
before the Nazis, there were at least 3 million Jews in Poland. Between March 1942 and November 1943, the SS and police deported approximately 1,526,000 Jews, most of them by train, to the killing centers of Operation Reinhard: Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka. so now we ask the Holocaust Deniers: where did these 4.5 million Jews go if only 300,000 Jews were left alive in Poland after the war? https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deportations-to-killing-centers
They know what they are peddling is bullshit and no amount of evidence will deter them from rinsing and repeating it. Its a great vehicle for jew smearing in disguise. Its another in a long series of jew hating bullshit that started with the "blood libel", then the protocols, to the "holohoax" to "ZOG". Same bullshit different package, same slime peddling it.
3 million Jews in Poland before WW2. 1.5 million European Jews deported to Poland during WW2. only 300,000 Jews left in Poland after WW2. .....where are the missing 4.2 million Jews??
Joseph Goebbels, the Reich Minister of Propaganda, noted of Hitler's speech: "He warned the Jews that if they were to cause another world war, it would lead to their destruction. ... Now the world war has come. The destruction of the Jews must be its necessary consequence."
“Today I will once more be a prophet. If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the bolshevization of the earth and this the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!” —Hitler's Speech to the Reichstag January 30, 1941 “In my speech before the Reichstag on the first of September 1939, I spoke of two matters: first, since we are forced into war, neither the threat of weapons nor a period of transition shall conquer us; second, if world Jewry launches another war in order to destroy the Aryan nations of Europe, it will not be the Aryan nations that will be destroyed, but the Jews...Once the Germans Jews laughed at my prophecy. I do not know whether they are still laughing, or whether they are laughing on the other side of their faces. I can simply repeat — they will stop laughing altogether, and I will fulfill my prophecy in this field too. ” —Hitler Speech to the Reichstag September 1942 “This criminal race has the two million dead of the (First) World War on their conscience, and now hundreds of thousands. Let no one say to me: we cannot send them into the mire. Who concerns themselves about our men? It is good if preceding us is the terror that we are exterminating the Jews. The attempt to found a Jewish state will fail.” —Hitler To Himmer and Heydrich in Hitler’s command headquarters October 25, 1941 “...Centuries will pass, but from the rubble of our city, our hatred of those who are to blame, international Jewry and its lackeys...I have made it clear that if they treat the nations of Europe as tools that may be bought and sold by these international swindlers for money and material support, then that race, the Jewish race, which is truly responsible for this murderous struggle, shall bear the consquences...Above all, I oblige the national leadership and its followers to observe the racial laws scrupulously and subject the poisoner of all nations — international Jewry — to merciless resistance.” —Hitler’s will, written only a few hours before his suicide April 29, 1945
Himmler’s Posen Speech: “Extermination” (October 4, 1943) I am talking about the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that is easily said. [quickly] “The Jewish people is being exterminated,” every Party member will tell you “perfectly clear, it’s part of our plans, we’re eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, a small matter.” [less quickly] And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. [mockingly] They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew. [a few people laugh] And . . . [audience cough] [carefully] . . . none of them has seen it, has endured it. Most of you will know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 are there or when there are 1000. And . . . to have seen this through and—with the exception of human weakness—to have remained decent, has made us hard and is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be mentioned. Because we know how difficult things would be, if today in every city during the bomb attacks, the burdens of war and privations, we still had Jews as secret saboteurs, agitators and instigators. We would probably be at the same stage as 16/17, if the Jews still resided in the body of the German people. We have taken away the riches that they had, and . . . I have given strict order, which Obergruppenführer Pohl has carried out, we have delivered these riches [carefully] to the Reich, to the State. We have taken nothing from them for ourselves. A few, who have offended against this, will be judged in accordance with an order, [loudly] that I gave at the beginning: he who takes even one Mark of this is a dead man. [less loudly] A number of SS men have offended against this order. They are very few, and they will be dead men [yells] WITHOUT MERCY! We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people, to kill this people who would kill us. We however do not have the right to enrich ourselves with even one fur, with one Mark, with one cigarette, with one watch, with anything. That we do not have. Because we don’t want, at the end of all this, to get sick and die from the same bacillus that we have exterminated. I will never see it happen that even one . . . bit of putrefaction comes in contact with us, or takes root in us. On the contrary, where it might try to take root, we will burn it out together. But altogether we can say: We have carried out this most difficult task for the love of our people. And we have suffered no defect within us, in our soul, in our character.
I keep posting the 2 sources that debunk your inflated statistics because you make ridiculous claims that you have an any way refuted what I've posted so far. 1. "The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed" http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/ EXCERPT– The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government)CONTINUED 2. "CHAPTER 2: THE NUMBER OF JEWS UNDER NAZI CONTROL" http://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-2-number-of-jews-under-nazi.html EXCERPT Section 9: There Were 4.5 Million Jews under Direct Nazi Control CONTINUED Now, where are your sources?
I already debunked your homicidal gas chambers myth in my Post #398 but you already know that and are stuck with only slander, evasions & off topic gossip.
are you saying the Nazis and their Fascist allies never controlled Eastern Poland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Italy, Vichy France, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and western Russia??????
@Grau, can you here and now agree with us that the Nazis had no right or reason to punish the Jews of Europe collectively for their loss in WW1? can you agree with us here and now that the Nazis were wrong for deporting and persecuting the Jews? sending them to concentration/work camps and stripping them of their rights?
No thanks, I've already seen the best that Hollywood has to offer. Many of the grisly images used by the Holocaust Industry to market their "product" are either German civilians, German POWs or have nothing to do with the holocaust at all.(1) Now, I dare you to show where I have ever supported any form of Nazi repetitional revival. I have only refuted the outrageous exaggerations promulgated by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry and your racist notion that the holocaust was in any way more tragic or profound than other equal or greater mass killings because Jews comprised some of the many victims. According to an ADL study, most of the world does not believe the grisly & inflated standard holocaust narrative so desperately espoused by you & your 2 buddies. Literally billions of people around the world reject your fraudulent myths about "6 million Jews killed", "homicidal gas chambers", "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", shrunken heads etc etc. ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources. Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED People living in almost 20 democracies must claim to believe the SHN even if they do not or else they face prison time and/or heavy fines. Therefore, it is safe to assume that even fewer people believe the fictitious standard holocaust narrative (SHN) because of repressive holocaust denial laws in many of the countries polled. (1) "Zionists Fake Holocaust Cremation Deaths Using 35 Year-Old Train Wreck Images" https://nodisinfo.com/zionists-holocaust-cremation-deaths-ohio-train-wreck-images/ EXCERPT "So, it is that there is not only no evidence for it, but in fact, there is evidence fully against it, proving it to be a lie. Here is the proof of the fake, the star imagery of the dog and pony show, the supposed open-pit cremation of naked, dead Jews. There were no Jews there. This is a fake. The corpses were put in artificially. The image has nothing to do with the war or post-war period. It’s not even from Germany but rather from the United States"CONTINUED
Of course I agree with what you've just stated. It's never right to persecute people for their ethnicity, religion, race or national origin. It was inexcusable to separate families, incarcerate innocent people, rob them of their possessions & execute them indiscriminately. I despise all forms of totalitarianism including repressions of free speech & racist notions are not only wrong but counterproductive. Racial, religious & ethnic differences are only superficial and so much more can be accomplished when you ignore those differences & devote your energies to the tasks at hand So, yes, I do agree that the Nazis had no right or reason to punish the Jews of Europe collectively for their loss in WW1?
i wonder what percent of the world believes your silly & ignorant idea that the Nazis and their Fascist allies never controlled Romania, Slovakia, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, eastern Poland and western Russia, during WW2. I guess....0% keep repeating your silly idea ad nauseum, that only 4.5 million Jews ever fell under Nazi or Nazi-allied control. it makes me laugh.
It seems that my observation from decades of direct experience with holocaust deniers that they are typically fascists, white supremacists and your standard jew hater is not an appropriate comment because it implies that anyone spouting holocaust denial bullshit is actually one of those scumbags. While the likelihood is high, it doesn't follow that every holocaust denier is a fascist/ white nationalist/jew hater. Some are just intellectually challenged, others are simply ignorant and to paraphrase Dear Leader Trump I"m sure there are one or two good people in their midst. Course I haven't run across one yet, but I suppose there is still hope. This is a typical denier post, in which one can clearly see a dedication to the standard strategy popularized by Samizdat and Zundel's gang of neo nazis. 2. Heads-I-Win-Tails-You-Lose -- Demand that all evidence for the Holocaust be proved genuine (dodging any discussion of what that proof would consist of), and also demand that all your unsubstantiated assertions be proved false. That way, you never bear any burden of proof. (originally posted by Mike Stein) 11. The Great Leap -- This tactic goes like this: If one piece of testimony about the Holocaust seems unreliable, then ALL testimony about the Holocaust is unreliable. If one Holocaust witness may have recanted something on the stand, then all other Holocaust witnesses are liars. If some camp prisoners did not starve to death, then NONE of them starved to death. etc. But be careful. This is a double-edged sword -- someone may use the well-documented lies of other revisionists to conclude that YOU are a liar as well. Only the intellectually and emotional stunted would think that out of all that trauma there wouldn't be apocryphal stories, fraud artists and charlatans among the millions of traumatized civilians. So naturally its a major plank of the denialist platform.
HOLOCAUST DENYING STRAWMAN There's only one problem with this additional rambling & slanderous, off topic tantrum: No one here has "denied the holocaust" so all of your bombastic B.S. is just more slander against someone outside of this forum. Since you're dissatisfied with your own ability to slander those whose facts you continue to evade, you're so desperate that you have to plagiarize other hacks who are incapable of refuting the facts: i.e "How to be a Revisionist Scholar". Wake me up when you can refute anything I've posted. Meanwhile, get help: "HOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSE" https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/ EXCERPT: 1. The only thing at Auschwitz resembling a human gas chamber was constructed in 1946 by Stalin. 2. Not a single diagnosis of death by cyanide poisoning is on record for any German labour camp. 3. No trace whatever remains of the millions of bodies allegedly gassed in the German labour camps. 4. None of the war generals after the war who wrote their memoirs made any allusion to human gas chambers or indeed to any intention to exterminate an ethnic group. 5. The Red Cross made normal, routine visits to Auschwitz during the war, and its published reports made no allusion to any ongoing human gassing there. 6. No authentic documents attesting to “The Holocaust” exist anywhere. 7. The Bad Arolsen archives list everyone who lived and died in all the German labour camps. The question naturally arises as to what is the total number recorded in this tremendous archive. Clearly the managers of this archive are not at liberty to tell of this or they would be jailed for so awful a crime."CONTINUED
Prove it. I've repeatedly posted 2 other sources that confirm only 4.5 million Jews were under German control. And for the 3rd time, occupying a country is not the same as controlling all of its territory and all of its people. For example, the US occupied S. Vietnam but it didn't control all its territory or all its people.
Hungary, Slovakia, Italy, Romania, Croatia, were under native Fascist control and were glad to deport their Jews to Poland and or massacre them. Millions of Jews lived there. Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus, eastern Poland were under Nazi control from the middle of 1941 to the middle of 1944. Millions of Jews lived there. case closed. now, if Poland had 3 million Jews before the war and hundreds of thousands of Jews were shipped there during the war, and only 300,000 Jews were left after the war, where did the missing Jews go? got an answer buddy? I thought not. You lose. Holocaust denial is ignorant, bigoted and irrational.
@Grau refuses to acknowledge that the Nazis and their bigoted Fascist buddies ruled over Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Slovakia, Croatia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, eastern Poland from June 1941 to June 1944. why? cause it means that at least 9 million Jews were under Nazi or Nazi-ally control from 1938 to 1944. you see folks, Holocaust denial is not an honest form of debate. It denies ANY and ALL facts that counter its bigoted pre-conceived notion that the Nazis are innocent of mass-killing Jews. They also ignore the many Nazi and Nazi-ally court convictions that took place at Nuremberg and elsewhere, that convicted Nazis and Nazi-allies of participatng in, orchestrating or managing mass-killing of Jews, Gypsies, Poles, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belsen_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belzec_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chełmno_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen-Gusen_camp_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_Ravensbrück_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobibór_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_trials
You mean they were reconstructed. Because the nazis weren't nearly as stupid as their apologists and actually attempted to DESTROY THE EVIDENCE of their genocidal crimes. Next you'll start claiming Leuchter proved there were no gas chambers. Absolutely correct. Again the nazis weren't stupid enough to document the fact they were engaged in mass murder. But holocaust deniers seem to think they were. BULLSHIT. It wasn't "millions" that were gassed, it was around 1 million. The human ash pits at treblinka might give you a hint, and don't bother trying to pull out the quack Krege. Except for the ones that did write about it, the ones that talked at length about it as prisoner in Trent House. the ones that admitted it in trials. Not to mention most of really hardcore nazis died so they couldn't write their memories. Eichmann kinda put the cherry on top of the mountain of evidence for the nazi gassings. Oh look another total distortion. Apparently the ICRC doesn't agree. https://www.icrc.org/en/internation...-detainees-nazi-concentration-camps-1942-1945 And you are correct. The term holocaust wasn't coined until after the war and the true extent of the genocide was revealed. OTOH, the closest thing is the wannsee protocols. And then there is the mountain of supporting documentation, like eichmann's deportation orders, the plans for a gas chamber, the po's for air tight doors, the volume of Zyklon produced and distributed to various sites (and yes it was also a fumigant for lice etc.) And of course there is Tesch's testimony who was executed because he knew his product was being used to kill humans. I could go on and on with other examples. Yet another piece of ignorant spin, its a publicly searchable database that even allows onsite research. Unbelievable diet of denialist bullshit you seem to enjoy. https://www.its-arolsen.org/en/research/research-in-the-its-archives/ By the Way so there is absolutely no confusion. Denying the existence of the final solution and the gas chambers is holocaust denial. PERIOD.
if you deny that the Nazis and their Fascist allies ruled over Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, eastern Poland, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Croatia, Italy for a good 2 years or more, than you are lying through your teeth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu#Antonescu_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary_in_World_War_II#The_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_Republic_(1939–1945)#The_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustashe go ahead, deny all the Fascist groups that ruled throughout eastern and southern europe during WW2. deny all the Nazi rule over Ukraine and eastern Poland. we know you will. the only strategy Holocaust Deniers have, is to simply deny. deny....deny...deny. and hope that some ignorant bigoted naive schmuck will listen
here are some Holocaust deniers https://www.foxnews.com/us/white-su...rupt-arkansas-holocaust-remembrance-day-event
The numbered points raised in the article I cited are thoroughly supported further along in the text of the same article . Additionally, it includes numerous photos that have been repressed by MSM, Hollywood and other entities that disseminate holocaust legends for the general public in the Western world. Read it if you dare. I'm curious as to where it is chiseled in stone that: "Denying the existence of the final solution and the gas chambers is holocaust denial". Is "denying" the veracity of fake "human skin lampshades" or fake "human fat soap" or other fraudulent props promulgated by the Holocaust Industry also "Holocaust denial"? You have to admit that the Holocaust Industry including its "Claims Commission" is hardly an ethical institution when it cheats deserving holocaust survivors(1). How trustworthy with the facts is such a self serving entity that has proven its fraudulence to do anything to enrich itself? (2) If it would cheat deserving holocaust survivors, how trustworthy is its narrative that needs to be especially grotesque & grisly if it is to succeed in extracting even more money(3)? If the alleged "lessons of the holocaust" is to prevent its recurrence, why did the Jewish Israelis inflict similar miseries on Palestine's native non Jewish residents massacring their families, stealing their land & destroying their homes & farms? It's especially shocking how quickly the persecuted become the persecutors. These are just a few good reasons why the vast majority of the world rejects(4) your interpretation of the fallacious standard holocaust narrative. For some reason, you saw fit to to post: "Denying the existence of the final solution and the gas chambers is holocaust denial". in bold type as if it were especially profound. Are you deputized by the CEO of "The Holocaust® Industry Inc" to decide who is a "holocaust denier" and who is not? Do you have a little badge that says "Holocaust® Thought Police"? I didn't think so and words cannot express how insignificant it is who you may fantasize as a "holocaust denier" At any rate, you continue to bluster that the holocaust is supported by "mountains of evidence and tons of documents" yet when asked for something as significant as just one order from Hitler(5) of the hundreds that must have circulated or just one photo of a real homicidal, German gas chambers the answer is always the same: "Oh! they were destroyed or disappeared or aliens ate them." Get real, you can't find a "Final Solution" Order from Hitler or just one homicidal gas chamber photo because neither existed. (1) "Audit: Israel’s Holocaust survivors cheated" https://www.jta.org/2008/06/22/default/audit-israels-holocaust-survivors-cheated EXCERPT "Holocaust survivors in Israel have received less than two-thirds of the German reparations allotted to them, an audit found." CONTINUED (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 (3) "Holocaust Survivors' Children Sue Germany for Therapy Fees" https://www.haaretz.com/1.4952800 “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.” (4) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources. Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (5) - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
