About the Holocaust

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  1. pitbull

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    My grandmother was quite anti-Semitic even though she came from a Jewish family. But she also hated Germans.
     
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    Eastern European Jews are not at home in Palestine. This wrong assumption has cost many lives until today. :(
     
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    Were it not for mans cruelty to man our earth would have been over populated and used up a long time ago.
     
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    The other day I happened to come upon this report:

    One-Third of Americans Don't Believe 6 Million Jews Were Murdered During the Holocaust

    The Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, or Claims Conference, released the findings of its survey to coincide with Holocaust Remembrance Day. They show a notable lack of understanding among Americans, especially millennials, the group said.

    The Claims Conference said there are "critical gaps both in awareness of basic facts as well as detailed knowledge of the Holocaust" in American society, stressing that U.S. schools must provide more comprehensive education on the crimes.

    Read more here:
    https://www.newsweek.com/one-third-...source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation
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    It is possible this report has already been posted here earlier. In that case I apologize for the repeat.
    It is probably time to build more monuments and statutes to remind the "millennials" of Germany's unforgivable crime of 80 or so years ago. After all, there are still a few 90-year-old Nazis running around free which need to be prosecuted!
     
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    All the so called "Jews" in Eastern Europe were Khazars.

    Quote From Freedman:
    "The so-called or self-styled “Jews” in eastern Europe in modern history cannot legitimately point to a single ancient ancestor who ever set even a foot on the soil of Palestine in the era of Bible history. Research also revealed that the so-called or self-styled “Jews” in eastern Europe were never “Semites”, are not “Semites” now, nor can they ever be regarded as “Semites” at any future time by any stretch of the imagination."

    Read more about them here:
    https://en.minanews.net/truth-khazars-selfstyled-jews-semitic/
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    With this revelation there can't be any true Antisemitism, at least not in the broader sense as it is applied now. Surely, there must be some real Jews left in the Middle East. It has been said, the Palestinians are the actual Jews from biblical times.
    What is your opinion on this? I know, Mr. Freedman has been condemned and shunned by the "so called Jews" for exposing them.
    My next question... does it matter whether Khazars or any other ethnic group was persecuted by the Germans? After all, a crime is a crime!
     
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    White Jews are mixed of Semite
     
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    Due to the massive ignorance and little education many Americans have
     
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    And they belong back in Poland and Germany ??
     
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    Pales are invaders from Saudi
     
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    Just look at the world now and where the "Jews" rule. They can't be mistaken... they are the descendants of the Khazars!

    ... the most striking characteristic of the Khazars was the apparent adoption of Judaism by the khagan (King) and the greater part of the ruling class in about 740. The circumstances of the conversion remain obscure, the depth of their adoption of Judaism difficult to assess; but the fact itself is undisputed and unparalleled in central Eurasian history.

    Read up on them here:
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Khazar
     
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    Are they? Do you have a link?
     
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    Perhaps the Ottoman Empire should have stayed out of WW1. Then they wouldn't have lost all of that territory which later was turned in many nations, including Israel, which has been the historical home of Jews for thousands of years.
     
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    The Khazar myth is a clever way to discredit Israel and has no truths
     
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    Those that hate Israel serve the prince of this world and the father of the lie.
     
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    And who would that be??
     
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    O.k., where are the Khazars?
     
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    You May Find a few about 1,200 yrs ago
     
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    About Jewish-Polish relations before WW2. It was not classical antisemitism as one might thought. But Poland supported and financed right wing Zionists and wanted Polish Jews to find a new homeland in Israel.
    Count Ludwik Łubieński, personal secretary to Polish Foreign Minister Józef Beck in the 1930s, wrote in 1964 that “in my opinion Jabotinsky ( leader of right-wing zionist organization ) was one of the few Jewish activists or politicians who understood that Poland was in essence the best friend of the Jewish cause and her staunchest ally.”

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/194105/polish-anti-semitism-zionism

    More about Jabotinsky:

    His new party demanded that the mainstream Zionist movement recognize as its stated objective the establishment of a Jewish state on both banks of the Jordan river. His main goal was to establish a modern Jewish state with the help of the British Empire. His philosophy contrasted with that of the socialist oriented Labor Zionists, in that it focused its economic and social policy on the ideals of the Jewish middle class in Europe. His ideal for a Jewish state was a form of nation state based loosely on the British imperial model. His support base was mostly located in Poland ( ! ), and his activities focused on attaining British support. Another area of major support for Jabotinsky was Latvia, where his speeches in Russian made an impression on the largely Russian-speaking Latvian Jewish community.

    Jabotinsky was both a nationalist and a liberal democrat. Despite his attachment to nationalism, he did not embrace authoritarian notions of state authority and its imposition on individual liberty; he said that "Every man is a king." He championed the notion of a free press and believed the new Jewish state would protect the rights and interests of minorities. As an economic liberal, he supported a free market with minimal government intervention, but also believed that the "'elementary necessities' of the average person...: food, shelter, clothing, the opportunity to educate his children, and medical aid in case of illness" should be supplied by the state.
     
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    Genetic tests are showing that most of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women. The Ashkenazi Jews make up the majority of Jews today and most recently have ancestry in central or Eastern Europe. While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe. So Jews are more European than one might think.

    https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580

    However Sephardic Jews with acient roots in Iberian peninsula were expelled from Spain in 1492 and went to north Africa and Italy. According to Jewish tradition they came there after Roman-Jewish wars. Recently Spain gave to their descendatns oportunity to get Spanish citizenship. More than 130.000 applied for it ( mostly from Latin America ). Yet descendands from Sephardi Jews which are living now in Israel mostly were not very interested.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/325779v1.full.pdf
     
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    I suspect that the actual ratio of Americans who have discovered the fraudulence of the standard holocaust narrative (SHN) is even greater due to the fact that they fear being insulted by "groupthink" holocaustian cult members as "Holocaust Deniers"

    Meanwhile, on a global scale, the ratio of people who reject the SHN is even greater as shown by an ADL study:


    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

    Here, too, it is very likely that even more people reject the SHN but are reluctant to do so, publicly because of the repressive Holocaust denial laws in Western countries that are essential to keeping the fraudulent SHN alive and very profitable.
     
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    This is the women’s side only . It seems that the Ashkenazi women are a mix of Italian and German converts etc

    The male line is different
     
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    The movie Ivan and Abraham really shows the hate of the 2
     
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    I just read a newer test on Ashkenazi !!
    Every test agrees that the female line is European
    This new test traces the male line closer to Persians and Turks
    Persian empire was kind to Jews and khazars were mostly Turkish

    so now I should think of myself as Turkish rubbish ???
     
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    Test says the white parts are mostly Slavic but the other features are Turkish and Persian and almost zero Middle East
     
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