About the Holocaust

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    nazi war criminals? rothschild? Morganthau? Herzl? Gurion? Baldour? Churchhill? Eisenhower?


    Too bad you never experienced the hate filled anti germanism from the semites.


    Semetic HATE filled Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-Ws call for the

    EXTERMINATION AND GENOCIDAL MURDER of ALL GERMANS.


    Full text of "Kaufman, Theodore - Germany must Perish (1941)"

    Germany Must Perish!

    by Theodore N. Kaufman
    Newark, N.J., Argyle press
    Copyright 1941
    Library’ of Congress Call No.: DD222.K3

    GERMANY MUST PERISH!

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    [The J-W] Kaufman's fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers.

    A review in the weekly Time
    magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman's plan a "sensational idea."
    https://archive.org/stream/KaufmanTheodoreGermanyMustPerishEN194135P./Kaufman,+Theodore+-+Germany+must+Perish+(EN,+1941,+35+p.)_djvu.txt

    As it was Britain and France who actually declared war (involving themselves in a regional conflict to expand it into an international blood-bath) and the United States was not yet officially involved, moral arguments had to be found to prepare the collective mind of Americans.

    [The J-W] Kaufman calls for world peace and says that the extermination of the German people is the precondition for that.

    extermination of the German people ???? :eek::confused::omfg::shocked::eekeyes::cynic::icon_shithitsthefan

    We must remember that this ideology of genocidal extermination and persecution of an entire people, came from a very politically influential Jewish mind, supported by all the worlds influential Jewish organisation’s and expanded into western policy, then agreed by Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt with the Morgenthau Plan… with some final minor adjustments.

    The language is Jewish, the ideology is Jewish, it was written by someone with a blinding racial and genocidal hatred toward a whole people, the German people – which history has shown us to be one of the finest, most creative, ingenuitive and refined, decent people on earth – a combination of qualities, which would perhaps, pose a threat to certain political, economical and geographical interests?

    It is only fair that the language is turned back on those who supported the mass murder and ‘PERSECUTION’ of the Germans, a clear premeditated intent to commit ‘Crimes Against Humanity‘ based on this very book and then legislated by the ‘Victors’ with the Morgenthau Plan.

    So how would the hateful intent of this Jewish literature be received if we simply exchanged the words, ‘Hitler’ for ‘Netanyahu’ – ‘Nazi’s’ for ‘Zionists’‘Germans’ for ‘Jews’ and ‘Germany’ for ‘Israel’ etc?

    Let’s see how it looks…

    “Today’s wars are not wars against Benjamin Netanyahu. Nor are they wars against the Zionists… Benjamin Netanyahu is no more to be blamed for these Israeli wars than was Sharon for the last one. Nor Begin before. These men did not originate or wage Israel’s wars against the world. They were merely the mirrors reflecting centuries-old inbred lust of the Jewish nation for conquest and mass murder. These wars are being waged by the Jewish people. It is they who are responsible. It is they who must be made to pay for the wars. …This time Israel has forced a TOTAL WAR upon the world. As a result, she must be prepared to pay a TOTAL PENALTY.

    And there is one, and only one, such Total Penalty, Israel must perish forever!
    In fact – not in fancy!”

    […]
    “Then why does war still exist?
    Simply because it has not been made impossible for it to be waged.
    There is only one way to abolish war: impose a penalty of such dire magnitude and frightful consequence upon aggressor peoples as to render it virtually impossible for any nation to start a war.”

    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/germany-must-perish/


    EISENHOWERS VACATION HIDEAWAY FOR GERMANS!



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    compared to:
    HITLERS DEATH CAMP FOR J-Ws

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    Here is a nice Jewish man telling the truth, they served beer at auschwitz in the cantina!



    The mass killing of Germans at the end of WW2.





    Thats what is called a psychopath in psychology you know.

    There you are folks, prime example of "J-W justice', get a hard on for some innocent group then killem all and let g-d sort em out..

    But then I suppose no one should complain since murdering nonJ-Ws is in the J-W Bible and is perfectly a-ok according to their g-d.


    Reference Documents
    ADM 1/8545/312: Admiralty paper on blockade and economic warfare, 1918.
    CAB 1/15/1: Cabinet paper on blockade of Germany, Jan 1916.
    FO 371/2679: Germany and war, 1916, including material on escalating food shortages in Germany.
    FO 845/1-11: Ministry of Blockade: Restriction of Enemy Supplies Department, 1916-19.
    FO 902/40-41: Ministry of Blockade, 1917-18.
    WO 158/552-553: Captured German documents on blockade, 1914-15.



    [GERMANY] Starvation and disease

    Such schemes, however, enjoyed only limited success. The average daily diet of 1,000 calories was insufficient even for small children. Disorders related to malnutrition - scurvy, tuberculosis and dysentery - were common by 1917.

    Official statistics attributed nearly 763,000 wartime deaths in Germany to starvation caused by the Allied blockade. This figure excluded the further 150,000 German victims of the 1918 [​IMG]influenza pandemic, which inevitably caused disproportionate suffering among those already weakened by malnutrition and related diseases.

    Although the blockade made an important contribution to the Allied victory, many of its devastating side effects cast a long shadow over post-war German society.

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    Starving inhabitants of Berlin


    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/firstworldwar/spotlights/blockade.htm

    The reason was marxi-commie-zionist J-Ws comitting genocide through their proxies.

    We have official Auschwitz prisoner records too, only 317,000 prisoners throughout the war, but somehow someone the J-Ws translated that to 4 million which is no officially 1 million and needs to be reduced another 700,000 to be accurate.
     
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  2. Kokomojojo

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    J-W: "I KNOW BUT IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"

    Narrator: But thats not the truth.




    Just like their Lying leader

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    SOME EVENTS TAKE PLACE BUT ARE NOT TRUE, OTHER EVENTS ARE [true], ALTHOUGH THEY NEVER OCCURRED
    ~J-W Elie the Weasel

    But Elie you low down no good for **** weasel, "THAT MEANS YOU ARE TELLING LIES!" ~Rabbi


    My imagination is pretty good but there is no way I could begin to fathom some of the ridiculous stories the J-Ws have invented

    J-W propaganda:
    - Stealing J-Ws money and property - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Money went into trust awaiting J-Ws arrival in Israel.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Lamp shades made from J-W skin - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Soap rendered from J-W fat - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - Shrunken J-W heads - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Electrocution Conveyors - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Camp rumors to scare new internees

    J-W propaganda:
    - Gassing J-Ws - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - US Crimes Diision Forensic Dr Charles Larson tested thousands of bodies, NO Signs of Gassed J-Ws.
    Truth - UK Dr Gordon, found no gassed J-Ws at any Nazi camp.
    Truth - Veinna Miltary Police NO Gassed J-Ws, Issued warning spreading lies about to be brought a court.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Massive J-W Murders - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - NO mass graves can be found.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Sick J-Ws Killed - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - the sick were taken to the Hospital
    Truth - the weak were not killed, they were assigned duties they could handle.

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-W Children Killed - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Children were alive and well taken care of.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Final Solution = Death/Genocide - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitlers Havaara Agreement was to Deport J-Ws
    Truth - Zionist J-W Gerhart Riegner secretary of the World Jewish Congress Admits the Final SOlution was to DEPORT J-Ws.
    Truth - Zionist J-W Gerhart Riegner secretary of the World Jewish Congress Admits the Final Solution was to DEPORT the J-Ws NOT harm, NOT murder, NOT kill NOT EXTERMINATE, by any means what so ever.
    Truth - Camp records recorded deporations

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#1' May 17, 1933
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#2' December 18, 1933
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#3' May 21, 1935
    Truth - - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#4' March 31, 1936
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#5' September 30, 1938
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#6' December 6, 1938
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler was a Psychopathic War Monger - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Hitler made Unconditional Peace offer '#7' 1939 to Poland to settle the Danzig Corridor issue peacefully
    Truth - UK, US, France, Poland, all Allies ignored it without response.

    J-W propaganda:
    - Nazi Death Camps - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Work, Labor and Transit Camps

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Steamed to death - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Prisoners had the luxury of hot showers

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Could tell who was being gassed by color of smoke - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Crematoria's do not emit any smoke

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws - Finger nail marks in cement - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Its impossible for finger nails to gouge cement

    J-W propaganda:
    - 6 MILLION J-Ws MURDERED IN GAS CHAMBERS - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Mathematically and Logistically Impossible
    Truth - 3,500,000 (3.5 Million) J-Ws applied for reparations money.
    Truth - Auschwitz 4 Million Death toll Officially reduced to 1 Million.
    Truth - Total Prisoners Through Auschwitz was 373,000, Truth - Official revisions report 600,000 more dead than were at the facility..

    J-W propaganda:
    - Hitler Started the War - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - J-Ws Declared War on Germany and Started the War
    Truth - Poles Slaughtered over 50,000 German Civilians
    Truth - Churchill Dropped the first bombs
    Truth - Poles Slaughtered over 50,000 German Civilians

    J-W propaganda:
    - Indiscrimate Bombing Civilians First - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Churchhill was the first Target Civilians
    America Followed lock step

    J-W propaganda:
    - Children went straight to the Gas Chambers - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Day Care facilities provided for children.

    J-W propaganda:
    - J-Ws Victims of Nazi Conducted Holocaust Ritual - PROVEN LIES
    Truth - Germans are the Human sacrificial victims of the ritual 'Holocaust' offering performed by the J-Ws to appease their G-D for sin. See Dresden et al

    J-W propaganda:
    - German Camps Were 'Death' Camps - PROVEN LIES
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Musicals,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Their own money,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Were --- Paid to work for the Germans,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Were --- Not slaves, Neither did they perform slave labor,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Horse Grooming,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Swimming Pools,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Soccer Games,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Cigarettes,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Movies,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Plays,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Theater,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Concerts,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Weekend passes to events at other Camps,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Post Cards etc to write to loved ones,
    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed Their own on camp whore house,
    Truth -
    J-Ws Enjoyed Violin Quartets 'played in the barracks',

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!

    Truth - J-Ws Enjoyed BEER SERVED AT THE CANTINA, at Auschwitz!


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    'Jews' the GOOD GUYS that comprehend what truth is, as distinguished from Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-W Liars testified that they were even able to buy BEER at the cantina at auschwitz! WTF?? :eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes::eekeyes:

    Who the hell ever heard of prisoners of war being served BEER?

    'Death' Camps Seriously? F*cking Seriously??



    J-W: "I KNOW BUT IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"

    Narrator: But thats not the truth.


    We realize that the J-W as victim HC is true in your imagination too.

    Narrator: But thats not the truth. [/QUOTE]

    precisely! He wants to use moderation to silence all opposition to the truth!
    Ignore only prevents you from seeing the post not a very good method for convincing readers anything you say has any validity.

    Riddle me this batman, if ou dont know we have the official A/B prisoner records from the beginning of the war to the end, there were only 371,000 prisoners through out that period at A/B, that said a maximum of 371,000 prisoners could have been gazzzzzed there, that said, why was it necessary for the J-Ws (and we have proof of that too) to claim 4 million were gazzed?

    If you cant stand the heat better put everyone here on iggy! Quickly!

    Official A/B prisoner records:
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you, Mr. Tate, for the link you included. In the meantime I have read the entire narrative of Storm's nde.
    In particular, I find the following passage most interesting because the signs are already visible:

    "If the United States continues to exploit the rest of the world by greedily consuming the world's resources, the United States will have God's blessing withdrawn.
    "Your country will collapse economically which will result in civil chaos. Because of the greedy nature of the people, you will have people killing people for a cup of gasoline.
    "The world will watch in horror as your country is obliterated by strife. The rest of the world will not intervene because they have been victims of your exploitation. They will welcome the annihilation of such selfish people.
    "The United States must change immediately and become the teachers of goodness and generosity to the rest of the world.
    "Today the United States is the primary merchant of war and the culture of violence that you export to the world. This will come to an end because you have the seeds of your own destruction within you. Either you will destroy yourselves or God will bring it to an end if there isn't a change."


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    Unfortunately, I see no change. America is doomed like other empires before it - it will break apart and Israel will most likely take over the lead of the world.
    Let's rejoice!
     
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    Pisa Well-Known Member

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    The second thing Palestinians did after Oslo - right after trying to massacre their peace partners - was fight between themselves and split their autonomous territory in two.

    Takes a massive double dose of far-left out-of-this-world utopian fantasies to believe there will be peace in Palestine if all Jews leave the area. No different at all from the far-right out-of-this-world utopian fantasies that Germany could have been the perfect heaven on Earth without those pesky Jews.

    I'm quite sure none of the so-called pro-Palestinians really cares about the people behind the label. Otherwise pro-Palestinian posters on forums like this one would at least mention atrocious violations of human rights by Palestinian leaders. The silence on this subject is both deafening and very telling.
     
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    There have always been Jews in Palestine. But no settlers from Europe who built a state on foreign land and expel and murder the local population. The problem isn't the Jew. The problem is nationalism combined with racism and colonialism. Call it Zionism.
     
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    And I come to the conclusion that I made an argument that you can't refute because you know I'm right.
    :D
     
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    The Nazis first wanted to remove the Jews from their sphere of influence. Mass murder became their last resort because all other attempts failed. Nazi-anti-Semitism was rapidly escalating. Finally, Jews were no human beings for the Nazis anymore. The Nazis then saw Jews as anti-humans striving to exterminate the human race. They thought they had to be faster: us or them! It was total madness ... :(
     
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    This is tragic, and not only because there is no connection between all of this hostility. Some believe that the strict cohesion of Jews in the Diaspora creates this xenophobia.

    We see something similar today with the Muslim community. They are hated because they set themselves apart.
     
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    I am convinced that a massive percentage of the function that has been performed for many nations by Wall Street must be transferred to the nation of Israel..... (I believe to near Jerusalem).... and the reason is because Jews understand the importance of the principle of JUBILEE!

    Can Israel pull the entire world economy out of a possible Bear Market, another 1929?


    For the record.... I personally believe in some variation of Multiverse Theory and I believe that we are in a time line where America will generally repent..... and re-elect the Cyrus type of political leader that has been raised up for us....


    and for all nations, to break chains and set captives free in many ways. Big MEDIA is very against breaking chains and setting captives free.



    Was Moses - Moshe a brilliant economist?




    "And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
    And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)




    Ecclesiastes 10:19
    "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "



     
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    Christians and Jews have been squabbling for eighteen or nineteen centuries.... (especially since the Bar Kochba Revolt).

    Were more than eighty percent of the Bolshevik Party of Russia Jewish?

    Yes!

    Did that fact have an effect on the thought and behaviour patterns of Germans.... .who were closely watching events in Russia of 1917, 1918.... into the 1930's?

    Obviously!

    I personally believe that Christians and Jews may begin to come back together over general agreement of the desperate need for the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter forty seven????


    Could there be two Jerusalem Third Temples?

    I read a pretty powerful case that before the Bar Kochba Revolt... the Messianic Jewish followers of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus were integrated with the Rabbinic Jewish community pretty much like the followers of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov are in 2020!


     
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    As I wrote just recently, The German Zionist Federation wanted to move as many German Jews to Palestine as possible even though at the 1938 Evian Conference many countries offered to accept Germany's Jews. The Zionists blocked all efforts to send Germany's Jews anywhere but Palestine(1) When that became impossible due to the British blockade. It was only then that the National Socialists started to send some Jews to the East for resettlement.

    As you know, other Jews remained in Germany in its fight against Communism as high ranking members of the Nazi Party(2) aids to the Reich(3) or members of Germany's military with some Jews reaching Germany's highest ranks and receiving Germany's highest military honors(4). It was primarily Jews who were sympathetic to the Communist cause who were transferred to the East for resettlement.

    There is absolutely no evidence of a mass murder agenda(5), (6) however, as the war dragged on, there were epidemics of typhus and difficulties in resupplying the work camps that were the primary causes of death, not fictitious "gas chambers", electrified conveyor belts or "human vaporizers"(7) and other non existent contraptions that were used to murder innocent Germans at Allied - Soviet show "trials" after the war.

    If Germany's National Socialists saw all Jews as "...anti-humans striving to exterminate the human race", they would not have allowed non Communist Jews to become Nazi Party members or allowed them to serve in Germany's military as Field Marshals, Generals etc.



    (1) "If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
    -- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).


    (2) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED


    (3) "Top 10 Nazi Collaborators Who Were Jews"
    https://listverse.com/2017/01/03/top-10-nazi-collaborators-who-were-jews/


    (4) “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

    “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED



    (5) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190



    (6) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

    EXCERPT “Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED


    (7) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED
     
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    The Nazis occupied several countries and kidnapped and murdered the Jews living there. Most of these countries now have laws against trivialization and denial of the Holocaust. In countries that were not affected, such laws usually don't exist.
     
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    This is wrong. Many witnesses, perpetrators, victims, and bystanders alike, who experienced the deportation and the planned extermination of European Jews, are still alive today.
     
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    Old tired Soviet propaganda from the 60s.

    You know what's funny? The Arab left in Palestine helped Zionists before 1948. They were freedom fighters for Israel.
     
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    My understanding is that Truman was wary of recognizing Israel but was convinced by his staff that it could otherwise become a Soviet client state.

    I further understand that the new nation of Israel would have been ok with that too.

    Is this correct?
     
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    Who do you mean with "Arab left"?
    Did the Arab left imagine something like the Nakba, as Zionists got a grip on Palestine? I don't think so. They surely didn't want their Arab brothers and sisters to be expelled and murdered.
     
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    The fact that so many alleged survivors are still alive is even more evidence that Germany's National Socialists did not have a genocidal agenda. As of 2003, there were well over 1 million Jewish holocaust survivors(1)

    Meanwhile, Jewish supplied sources report that the Jewish population grew by almost 4 million over the war years(2). This could not have happened if about "6 million Jews" were killed in and around "death camps".
    Math doesn't lie but brainwashed holocaustians do.

    Additionally, the British cracked the German "Enigma" code and were able to listen in on secret German radio transmissions. Nowhere is there any mention of homicidal gas chambers or a genocidal agenda(3).

    Finally, holocaust survivors who tell the truth(4) are not allowed to speak at any of the world's glut of grotesque holocaust theme parks nor are they allowed to tell their stories on MSM. At the same time, countless holocaust frauds fill the bookshelves and talk shows with impossible lies(5) that gullible people believe without ever checking to see if they are true or not.

    Why do you still believe such outrageous lies when the only "evidence" to support them are profitable lies peddled by a Holocaust Industry with a proven history of perpetuating outright fraud(6)?




    (1) “NAZI GASSINGS NEVER HAPPENED”
    http://www.nazigassings.com

    EXCERPT " 9) The numbers of “holocaust survivors” are enormous—even today. The numbers are well into the hundreds of thousands even sixty years after the war. In 2003 an Israeli demographer, Sergio Della Pergola, stated in an official Israeli report that there were 1.092,000 Jewish holocaust survivors alive in the world in 2003."CONTINUED


    (2)"Was there Really a Holocaust?"
    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm

    EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED


    (3) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


    (4) "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
    https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony


    (5) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED


    (6) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED
     
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    No.

    Truman recognized the de facto authority of the Israeli provisional government over the head of his administration. Nothing to do with the Soviets.
    https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/us-israel

    The nation of Israel was not new, by the way.
     
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    100%.
     
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    Well, the Arab left then probably knew better what was really going on in Palestine than the wider Arab, and later Soviet, propaganda pretended.

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-when-arabs-were-freedom-fighters-for-israel-1.5376699

    Before you jump to the wrong anti-Zionist conclusion, those party members had been arrested for violating an interdiction to hold a rally, not for being Arabs.

    What we don't know might be far more relevant and enlightening than what we already know, or think we know. When I'm told something about an important subject, my first reaction is to ask myself what I'm not being told. It serves me well. Worth trying.
     
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    It hadn’t existed In the form of a Jewish State in almost 2000 years and in that time other people were living there.
     
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    Pakistan had never existed before 1948, many of its inhabitants didn't live there when it was created and didn't define themselves as Pakistanis.

    Jordan had never existed before 1946, and most of its inhabitants are members of that "other people" (though our definitions for the term are surely different), ruled by a minority who never lived there until they invaded in the 20s.

    Do you have a problem with these two countries?

    Define that "other people" in Palestine.
     
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    Palestinians.
     
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    Define "Palestinians".
     
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    The population that lived as the vast majority in what is now Israel before the creation of the Jewish state. I think I would be angry at being displaced by people who claimed the area because it was theirs 2000 years ago. How would you feel if Native Americans decided they wanted your property?
     
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