AbraCadabra! Where did all the jobs go?

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  1. Ndividual

    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    You might find a more mannerly approach to discussing issues to be more productive.
     
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    There is NO EVIDENCE for that. There is theory, and it's a failed, "trickle-down" theory.

    I just heard on the news that the one industry that has not suffered crippling job losses for the last 25 years is the health industry. and the reason given is that health is paid for with a constant flow of dollars from patients, Medicare, insurance companies, etc. and money creates and maintains jobs.

    So, you want jobs? Spend money on infrastructure and make it a constant flow of dollars until the job boom begins. Jump-start the economy. But austerity (the Republican "solution" that you are describing) is a failing plan. Republicans are all about enriching the wealthy corporate elite more and more until the corporate elite squeals "ENOUGH!!!" Fat chance of that.
     
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    no evidence?? you feel unions, huge taxes and regulations will bring jobs back to America after those very things drove them away???
    Trickle down capitalism where the Iphone, for example,
    trickles down to 200 million Americans is far better than trickle down welfare, what liberals want.
     
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    you have learned 37 times now that to spend money into the economy you need to tax it out first thus making a net gain 100% impossible. Shall we go for 38?
     
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    this causes a bubble like the recent housing bubble that leads to recession/depression. Do you understand?
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    You should read this single report about Medicaid; http://www.npr.org/2017/06/27/53451...often-still-need-medicaid-kaiser-survey-shows

    Please provide a reputable link to verify your 75% don't work claim?

    What do you mean by 'real jobs'?

    Your information is incorrect, biased and xenophobic...
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    You are clueless why jobs and business and manufacturing processes move outside of the USA.

    Please provide a single so-called 'liberal policy' that drove jobs offshore??
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    There is no such thing as a 'republican capitalist economy'??
     
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    All things promised to you by a lying presidential candidate and you fall for it? A candidate who has zero political or government experience?

    Curious about one of your self-serving comments above? If we cut or eliminate taxes where will the USA get it's funding?

    So you blame all of those 'unfit for work Americans' on liberals?

    Although I'm not surprised...it is quite remarkable that so-called Americans are so clueless about society, business and government...
     
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    Interesting that you can find so much wrong about the greatest nation on Earth? Since there is so much you hate you truly should consider relocation outside of the US. Might I suggest Egypt, or Turkey, maybe Columbia or Nicaragua, Algeria or Nigeria, and don't forget Iraq. These are places that support your type of government and society...
     
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    yes sadly the liberal influence in America is very wrong, especially after our Constitution made liberalism illegal. Now you can understand why liberals want the Constitution to say anything they want it to say, including we can be communists.
     
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    if you have evidence of that I will pay you $10,000 Bet or admit is a juvenile lie at best.
     
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    candidates always promise stuff and of course must delivery if they have enough support to do so
     
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    from the taxes cut obviously, not those eliminated
     
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    yes, liberals attacked and destroyed the families, schools, and religions. 60,000/year alone OD or commit suicide thanks to liberals!
     
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    What's your population?
    And if you don't renegotiate trade deals you will continue to lose and pay the globalist fee. Good thing that is stopping.
     
  17. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, we are moving from a Industrial Age to an Information Age. (Don't believe that? See here - put your cursor on each of those "industries" listed and watch the evolution over the intervening period of 1910 to 2015, which is almost a century.)

    If we are exporting anything, it is "Google"! Some Boeing jet aircraft, but not all that many compared to Knowledge-based Products.

    Donald Dork can promise all the Manufacturing Jobs both you and he may want. But that is not going to help the American worker all that much. S/he has to go "upmarket" in terms of competencies and skills.

    Which requires a Tertiary Level Education (vocational, 2- & 4-year & more). Moreover, if Uncle Sam wants a Real Investment in Our Collective Future, he can make those degrees free, gratis and for nothing at state-institutions of higher-learning.
     
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    Seems to me you're one of the very few trying to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

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    While it's too bad education can be pricey, having the government provide it free will IMO reduce those state institutions from 'higher-learning' to the lowest learning. Look what government has done with K-12 education...it's a factory that produces idiots and dropouts at alarming rates. As soon as college education is free, it will be dumbed-down to the lowest common denominator of students, it will be short-cutted because Americans don't have the patience to learn for 2 or 4 or more years, and standards for graduation or certification will be greatly reduced to accommodate all students no matter their performances...
     
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    lets be honest, a liberal is a communist and thus wants 1001 other things free too, i.e, paid for by other people such that govt becomes a mechanism used by everyone to steal from everyone else with each hoping to rip off the other guy more than they get ripped off. This is how the USSR and Red China slowly starved 120 million to death.
     
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    good point!! our k-12 govt union public schools turn out about the dumbest kids in the civilized world so lets let them manage college too??
    Actually govt has recently stepped in in a big way by making college loans easily available. Whoops all that did was double the cost of college[ college administrators raised prices] so that now most kids graduate with huge debts that they cant pay off. Lets encourage govt to help more like it does in France and Cuba so we can have the same standard of living as backward countries!!
     
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    James M, aside from all the rhetoric, please share with us your definition of a communist? What exactly is a communist??
     
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    Bernie Sanders is an open communist and he is now mainstream among Democrats
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do tell me what a communist is. I'm curious if you really know what that is. Just throwing a name out there is not a clear definition of a communist.
     
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    Communist
    noun:
    a person who supports or believes in the principles of communism.
    adjective
    adhering to or based on the principles of communism.

    Wasn't this thread about 'jobs'?
     

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