Aftermath of 9-11 viewed in higher dimension of space- time by near death experiencer

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I personally have studied hundreds of NDE accounts since 1990 and I do believe that many of us can come to a higher level of peace of mind once we read about what was happening in the higher dimensions of space- time after the terrorist attack:

    http://www.near-death.com/atwater/september11/index.html#two
     
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    The above of course makes the assumption that there were
    hijacked airliners used as weapons, hate to rain on your parade....
    but there were no hijackings that day, its all a lie!
    "FLT11", "FLT175", "FLT77", "FLT93" all bogus!
    there were either missiles, or maybe only explosives used
    to create the effect, but commercial airliners used as weapons,
    really? U have got 2 B kidding!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are certainly free to believe that if you wish but what Dr. P. M. H. Atwater reports is actually quite impressive.

    NDE accounts are being taken so seriously in England these days that unusual objects are being placed in impossible to be seen places around the operating rooms and nearby rooms so that researchers can verify if people who report an OBE will be able to report what they saw placed in strange places.


    http://www.near-death.com/atwater/september11/index.html#two
     
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    I read "My Descent Into Death" by former atheist Howard Storm several years ago.

    What he reports being told about the holocaust on the Jewish people corresponds well with what Dr. Atwater asserts she saw happening after 9-11.


     
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    Nope all proven all hijacked and all flown into the targets except 93.

    No missiles and no explisves used. All proven facts which you cannot produce a speck of evidence to refute
     
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    and all the evidence that has been produced,
    must be simply a figment & nothing worth bothering with.
    but that would be YOUR interpretation.

    There is evidence, and plenty of it,
    its just some people choose to ignore it.

    oh well ...........
     
  7. DennisTate

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    And apparently people in positions to do something about it were warned that that type of attack might be coming.


    http://voices.yahoo.com/10-warnings-9-11-attacks-pres-george-w-5896442.html

    10 Warnings About 9/11 Attacks that Pres. George W. Bush Ignored and Lied About
     
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    No it is not a fiment and no it is not my interpretation.

    It is simple fact NO evidence has been produced to refute it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ambiguous and non specific warnings sure. Which are produced every day by one agency or another
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True….. but if we learned a little more from the monetary policy of President Lincoln we might be able to hire a few more bright graduates to look into some more of the more impressive sounding warnings!



    http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

     
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    What is impressive about what you've reported here? There's nothing he said that wasn't already know, reasonable assumed though impossible to confirm or unsupported mysticism (and the fact it's consistent with previously published unsupported mysticism is irrelevant).

    That's taking the phenomena seriously, not the supernatural claims surrounding it. Incidentally, as far as I know none of those experiments have had anything close to a positive hit.
     
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    OBE/NDE can now be produced essentially under laboratory conditions:



    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers06.html


     
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    Erm, yes. All the more reason to suspect they're entirely natural physiological effects and not to tie any specific supernatural imaginings to it.
     
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    I think Generic Bob has gone off the deep edge. No hijackings that day? No planes? Oh Brother . . .
     
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    Have you read anything at all about the crime that was 9/11/2001?
    Why should commercial airliners behave as missiles?
    what?
     
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    Partly because the spiritual forces surrounding our fourth dimensional space- time continuum wish for us to begin to give more credit to people who have a different set of beliefs from us.

    NDE accounts could give the democratic western nations some common ground with the Islamic nations.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html



    I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)



    If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!






    http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html
     
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    That is certainly one valid direction to go in with this phenomena but.........… it is kind of amazing how in some cases an NDE results in somebody coming back with an idea that can be patented?!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research08.html#a16


    e.


     
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    Many crimes were committed that day, however, your coo-coo beliefs that America was behind all of that is absurd. You sound as goofy as Rosie ODonnell asking when the last time fire melted steel.
     
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    Why is that amazing? Plenty of people have come up with many scientific discoveries or ideas without NDEs. Maybe he would have developed those ideas regardless or maybe the physiological event altered his brain (not unlike the way some people with autism can develop impressive logical thought processes).

    Regardless, my fundamental point remains; the assumption that NDEs have any kind of "supernatural" or divine element remains totally unsupported and totally unnecessary for an honest investigation of these various phenomena.
     
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    too much religious belief in that one, sounds fake
     
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    When did I ever mention that "AMERICA" was the perpetrator?
    and as for Rosie ODonnell, she is entitled to ask all the questions she wants, its a free country ( sorta.....)
     
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    She is free to make herself look as uneducated as she did, certainly.
     
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    There is "education" and then there is practical knowledge.
    I am reminded of the story about some of the indigenous peoples of North America allowed their children to be EDUCATED by whitey.... and when the kids returned to their tribe from school, the tribal elders complained to whitey that the kids could not hunt, could not track, could not build shelter, so what is the purpose of this "education"?

    Given the caveat of fire without being force fed oxygen
    the mundane hydrocarbon fires that were allegedly the
    sole source of heat in the towers that day, could not
    possibly have created the temperatures needed to do
    what was done, there are obvious evidence bits that are
    steel that has been melted, and in addition, the iron micro-spheres,
    how did that happen? Somebody has a lot to account for!
     
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    ... and you revert back to arguing from incredulity.
     
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    So, in what way have I argued from "incredulity"
    the facts stand alone here.
     
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    Show your math.
     

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