Air Force Warns Boeing’s New CEO That It’s Not Happy Either

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  1. Sobo

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    Its ironic. The contract was won by Airbus 9 years ago, because it made the better offer. Since americans cant play fair they skipped the contract and made a new one with Boeing. Now the US Airforce sits in a hangar queen, which isnt working. Sweet justice

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...plNKChjHB3SFirx0RQY1L1C6HntrFsOPpU_3ccCcjJWvw

    The Air Force’s top military officer has sent Boeing Co.’s new CEO a blunt reminder that the ill-fated 737 Max passenger jet isn’t the only troubled project he has to rescue.



    There’s also the company’s failure to provide a combat-ready refueling tanker, nine years after Boeing won a competition for the $44 billion project.



    “We require your attention and improved focus on the KC-46” tanker, General David Goldfein, the Air Force chief of staff, warned in a letter four days before Dave Calhoun took over as chief executive officer of the company. “The Air Force continues to accept deliveries of a tanker incapable of performing its primary operational mission.”



    Calhoun has been entrusted with turning around a company that is reeling from a pair of crashes of the Max that killed 346 people and resulted in the grounding of its best selling jet, sent its stock into a swoon and raised questions about its commitment to safety.
     
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    This is actually very mild coming from Air Force leadership. Very encouraging and tells me they are working together
     
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    Yup, your Air Force denied to accept delivery after finding garbage in the tanks and engines
     
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    What a mess. Nearly $1B held back! I was thinking that the military contracts would help tide them over while they fixed the commercial stuff....
     
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    When a company is rotten to the core, do you think they installed internal bulkheads to stop the corruption from spreading?

    Boeing is rotten in evry aspect.
     
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    Selective Amnesia is a heck of a thing.

    Once again you didn't do your homework

    Airbus ordered to pay €81 million to end German corruption probe
    German prosecutors have ordered Airbus to pay €81 million to settle an investigation into alleged corruption. The long-running probe concerns the firm's multi-billion euro sale of Eurofighter jets to Austria.

    European aircraft manufacturer Airbus agreed to settle a corruption investigation in Germany by paying an €81.25 million ($99 million) fine to authorities, prosecutors in Munich announced on Friday.

    The settlement sum breaks down into a €250,000 administrative fine as well as an €81 million "disgorgement," which is broadly defined as the recovery of ill-gotten gains.

    https://www.dw.com/en/airbus-ordered-to-pay-81-million-to-end-german-corruption-probe/a-42526129



    Airbus ordered to pay $99 million fine in Eurofighter case


    FRANKFURT (Reuters) - German prosecutors have ordered Airbus (AIR.PA) to pay 81.25 million euros ($99 million) to settle one of two investigations into alleged corruption surrounding the sale of Eurofighter combat jets to Austria in 2003, the two sides said on Friday.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbus-nl-court-idUSKBN1FT2GB

    SFO investigates Airbus for fraud, bribery, and corruption

    Last month, the U.K.’s anti-corruption enforcement agency, the Serious Fraud Office (SFO), opened a criminal investigation into allegations of fraud, bribery, and corruption in the civil aviation business of Airbus. The key area of concern is Airbus’ use of third-party consultants to win contracts to build passenger jets.

    The European aircraft manufacturer issued a terse statement on 7 August (though the SFO had notified it two days earlier that there would be a criminal inquiry). It confirmed that the agency was conducting a criminal investigation “relating to irregularities concerning third-party consultants,” whereby the company failed to notify authorities on the use of third-party agents in deals that it was asking the U.K. government to cover with financing guarantees. Airbus—which self-reported the alleged corruption to the SFO in March after conducting an internal compliance review—added that it is cooperating with the agency.


    https://www.complianceweek.com/sfo-investigates-airbus-for-fraud-bribery-and-corruption/2924.article

    This is what happens when you pretend only one side is corrupt.
     
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    You know what the difference is, that Airbus doesnt leave Coca Cola cans in aircraft tanks and no ladders in the tail. Airbus doesnt forget rivets in the hull.

    So far no airline or country denied to accept delivery of aircrafts because quality issues from Airbus. :)
     
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    They didn't kill 340 people because of design faults or have their fleet grounded.
     
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    As I understand it, Boeing convinced the current administration that it should act as final quality and airworthiness judge for it designs, not the FAA. Please correct me if I am wrong. I fervently hope that I am.
     
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    Never should have allowed them to buy up Mcdonnell Douglas.
     
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    That's not actually possible as every aspect of the plane has to go through FAA certification.

    I know something about the manufacturing side of it.

    That being said, design flaws happen but that's not what they are in trouble for, they are in trouble for not correcting it.
     
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    Some aspects of the design were self-certified by Boeing with tha FAA's consent.
     
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    Airbus has been convicted of corruption and bribery blowing your claims apart. Deal with the reality.
     
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    Which wasn't the argument addressed. The question was about corruption. Try paying attention to the debate you are jumping into next time.
     
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    The OP wasn't about corruption it was about incompetance. You changed the subject and went off-topic. Try paying attention to the thread instead of posting garbage.
     
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    Garbage. Try paying attention next time.
     
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    Airbus is an embarrassment to the world, bad people bad leadership, bad employees, just bad.

    rotten to the core.



    rotten I tell you!

    maybe they should just close down it would be best for all.
     
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    No, if they would close there would be no company building functional passenger airplanes.
     
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    Thats normal for all big corporations.

    Whats not normal is an aircraft manufacturer to build an abomination like the 737 MAX8. Or to forget trash in the fuel tanks or ladders in the tailfin, or missing rivets in fuselage...or lose seats.

    I prefer a company that uses bribing in state contracts over one that build an aircraft with too big engines that depends on a faulty software to stay airborne
     
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    @guavaball has a problem in reading and understanding stuff. The word corruption is not a single time in my post.

    He does that alot. He brings up **** that has nothing to do with the topic and then tries to make it center.

    Boeing is corrupted not because bribing (which they do as well) but because their engineering department was hijacked by Controlling and sales management. And that creeped into all Boeing departments.

    Their civil business is breaking down because faulty aircrafts.

    Their military department is breaking down because massive design issues and quality issues

    Their space compartment suffers same, with a "Starliner" that cant reach the ISS
     
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    Dude seriously .......
    They may have won the contract due do its offer, but it is certainly plagued by production delivery schedule delays too.

    https://www.aerotime.aero/zivile.za...xpress-frustration-over-airbus-a320neo-delays

    Even in Germany, imagine that !!!
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...delays-at-hamburg-plant-sources-idUSKCN1MX1IU
     
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    No I don't. If this thread is another one about the crashes, then state it.
     
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    Probably a good idea to get out of that contact. Airbus isn't reliable.
     
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    Dude, you obbiously have no clue whats going on.

    Airbus won the contract, USA Airforce said the Airbus is the better plane.

    US politicians lobbied and the comtract was cancelled snd give to Boeing. Now Boeing delivers trash.

    You should have stayed at Airbus, since now you got Boeing garbage.
     

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