Al Jazeera reporter killed during Israeli raid in West Bank

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    There are a lot of non-Jews in the media, too. Make a list, let's compare.
     
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    Yeah... I got my lefts and rights mixed up here...
     
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    The article below outlines how several Zionist - Jewish - Israeli organizations / lobbies manipulate MSM (1)

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    Of course I hate war crimes like ethnic cleansing. I thought that you meant distant individuals over which you have no control or people with which you disagree.
    For example, I do not hate or have any hostile feelings toward people with whom I disagree; hate in that sense simply clouds your mind, hinders your judgement and impairs your ability to express your thoughts. "Virtue" has nothing to do with it

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    About 1/2 of the American population does not believe the official 9/11 narrative(2) but what you chose to believe is up to you.
    For starters, perhaps you can explain how Building # 7 imploded perfectly without being touched by anything or why the hole in the Pentagon is way too small for an airliner. I remember seeing and hearing timed explosions on a much earlier video that has since been censored.
    There are far too many holes in the official narrative that simply don't pass the smell test if you keep an open mind and think for yourself.

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    Firstly, how do you know that there's been a "HUGE staff turnover", secondly, if you're dissatisfied with the research I've done for you, you're welcome to do it yourself.



    (1) "Media Bias And The Israel Lobby In Th United States"
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...ias_and_the_Israel_Lobby_in_the_United_States


    (2) "Half of Americans Believe in 9/11 Conspiracy Theories"
    https://www.livescience.com/56479-americans-believe-conspiracy-theories.html
     
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    The short answer is: For P.R. purposes because an independent investigation determined that IDF deliberately targets civilians(1).

    Did you ever stop to wonder what right IDF has to destroy civilian homes in the first place?

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    Because that's what they are organized, trained and paid by the Israeli government to do(2), (3).




    (1) "Independent investigation details Israel’s deliberate targeting of civilians in Gaza"
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/independent-investigation-deliberate/

    EXCERPT "A new independent medical fact-finding mission in Gaza has detailed Israel’s deliberate killing of Palestinian civilians in its summer 2014 attack, codenamed Operation “Protective Edge.” Acts documented in the investigation include the use of human shields, close-range murder of civilians, targeting of medics, and more.

    The report based on fieldwork and research conducted by Physicians for Human Rights-Israel (PHR-Israel), in conjunction with several other human rights and medical organizations, sits at a bulky 237 pages. PHR-Israel, in its words, “recruited eight independent international medical experts, unaffiliated with Israeli or Palestinian parties involved in the conflict,” leading specialists in numerous medical, health, and human rights fields. Jennifer Leaning, the Director of the Center for Health and Human Rights Department of Global Health and Population in Harvard University’s School of Public Health, was among those chosen to oversee the report."CONTINUED


    (2) " A Guide To HASBARA TROLLS"
    https://www.amazon.com/review/ROCGLPRB3HUG


    (3) "How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet"
    https://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/

    EXCERPT "So why was it shut down in the first place? What happened and why?

    As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Perhaps like our videos of Palestinians killed by Israeli forces."
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    Because I find who killed the reporter the most important part of this topic.
    And you are conceding to this, by not able to debunk it.

    Even worse, for you. Not only CNN is accusing Israel.
    The Post, the New York Times, the Associated Press, Bellingcat and the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights joined in.

    So that closes the entire case, that Israel is harboring a murderer who is not even getting a criminal investigation.
     
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    I have, and you are conceding to it, by editing my links out.
     
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    Israel doesn't allow the people in Gaza to build bomb shelters, since they banned the import of concrete.
    While Israel does target children, just Israel killed the reporter.
     
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    A Hamas bomb shelter, much of which was built by kids, some who died in the construction.
    Hamas metro.jpg
     
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    Hamas Palestinian Bedouins DO NOT build bomb and attack tunnels.
    That's a lie.
    Palestinians want peace.
    They support human rights and gay right.
    Palestinians are the center of the world.
    One injured Palestinian is More Important than 50 murdered Christians in Nigeria.
    Thank you for understanding. :banana::rock_slayer::deadhorse:
     
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    Sarcasm!
     
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    We don't know who killed the reporter because no international investigation has been completed. All we have is media speculation based on their own investigation using their own experts, which has no international law consequences.

    Well, you provided a link to the CNN investigation, so you should also be able to link to the Post, the New York Times, the Associated Press, Bellingcat and the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights.
     
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    So knock bombs were not used before this investigation?

    This does not mean that they are responsible for every single instance of video removal!
     
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    That doesn't look like some kids build that. While the fact stands that Israel wants no child at all in Gaza to be able to hide in a bomb shelter.
    And here you are accusing Hamas that they are the ones who put the children on the streets when the bombs fall.
    Nothing shows Israel has any kind of restraint. The fact stands that with all their talk about how they evade killing them, they end up killing a heck of a lot more children then a group of terrorists.

    It's on a smaller scale exactly like who killed that reporter. CNN is accusing Israel, The Post, the New York Times, the Associated Press, Bellingcat and the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights all have investigated who did it. And they say it's Israel. Israel who said to have no interest in having a criminal investigation in it. That's so different compared to how Israel reacts when an Israeli Jews gets killed.
     
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    Gazan kids have been involved the digging of these tunnels. Some of which collapsed during construction. It's worse than mere child labor.
    In Lebanon meanwhile villagers get an annual payment for housing some of the 150,000 missiles Hezbollah has stationed along the Israeli border. So right there, in your living room, you too can have an armed missile. But what would happen in a conflict? Of course, Israel could target these missiles.
    So please, answer this, if Lebanese children are killed, whose fault is it?
     
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    There have been 6 international investigations completed as far as I know, and they are accusing Israel.
    But you don't think they are good enough, because ... obviously you don't like who they accuse.

    1) UN and Bellingcat are not the media
    2) They are not speculating around
    3) You've never proved how it's relevant that they are part of some law and order institute.

    I provided a link mentioning all these organizations accusing Israel. That will do.
    Besides. You've already attacked the messengers without even reading their message.
    So it's clear you are conceding to their findings, since you got nothing to rebuke.
     
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    Nothing changes the fact that Israel has as a policy that not 1 child is able to go to a bomb shelter. All you got going now is that "some child did this"... as an excuse to punish all of them. Last time I checked.... collective punishment is still a war crime. Very pro Jewish Israel to sweet talk war criminal behavior.

    Pff. Israel sent it's Jewish children across their border to live in the middle of a warzone. And those missiles are their as a deterrent. Israel constantly attacks while they are not even provoked. Your idea that the missiles are right in the living room is such a myth. Let me remind you that the IDF has stationed their head quarters in the middle of a massive city, being fully aware that their opponents can't aim that well, and so using 100.000's of civilians as a shield. That's what Israel stands for.

    It all goes hand in hand that Israel stands accused by 6 independent reports of having killed that reporter. Yet Israel refuses to hold a criminal inquiry into the matter. This is what terrorist do.
     
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    But not the people who commit it?

    All totally irrelevant to my point. Again, the article which you linked to just STATES AS FACT that Mossad was responsible. You cut this out in your latest reply. Why? Do you yourself believe that Mossad was responsible for 9/11 and the July 7 London bombing?

    Well I did not state it as FACT. I just said that there has probably been a huge turnover since 2014 and 2016, which are the years that the articles you linked to are from - articles which talk about pro-Israel media bias. I asked for a "recent example" and neither of these can reasonably be considered "recent" as one is from 2016 and one is from 2014. So why did I say that there has probably been a huge turnover since 2014 and 2016? Because at that time, millennials would not have been old enough to control the media companies as they very much appear to now. You HAVE to know that rags such as the New York Times and the Washington Post are now run by a bunch of mostly far left white-guilt ridden millennial liberals who support the most liberal of causes - one of which is NOT supporting Israel.

    That essay is from 2017, which would have used research data from before 2017. Look, I'm willing to consider that the dominant left-wing media had a pro-Israel bias even a recently as 2016. But alot has changed in the 6 years since. I think that alot of it was a reaction to Trump, with members of the left wing media wanting to oppose him as much as humanly possible, and supporting EVERYTHING which he supported. Remember, Trump was the most pro-Israel President in a long time, so it's natural that the media would oppose that. But I won't be surprised if you refuse to be open to the possibility that the 'bias pendulum' has now swung the other way. After all, you do seem to live in the past a bit.

    What does this demonstrate?
     
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    Including the CNN investigation?

    Bellingcat is an investigative journalism group.

    When? To ME directly?
     
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    Wonderful .. finally some sense from one of the Israeli apologists. .. Thank you ..

    This .. is when the targeted assassinations happen ..same with these US drone strikes .. half the time .. the "Target" not there or was a mistake .. and some random family is take out .. along with surrounding collatoral damage. Not during "War" - when war is raging -- but during the off times in most cases for the Israeli assassinations over the years.

    I realize that you have thrown out the rule book .. but, what ever rules there are .. this is breaking them. don't want Nations running around doing this type of thing.

    I am not saying that all "targeted assassinations" break the rules .. but .. most of them do . this shooting of a journalist another example of rule breaking.
     
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    So then what is "Human Shield Propaganda koolaid?"
     
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    Claiming human sheilds in such cases.
     
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    we can all count, no?

    They are specialized in investigating among things, war zones and publishes it. It's not "exactly" concerned with tabloid news from Hollywood or the weather. So it's not "the media".

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/24/israel-un-shireen-american-journalist/
     
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    Two questions if I may
    1 - Hezbollah has about 150,000 missiles. WHERE are these stationed if not in people's homes?
    2 - What Israeli policy prohibits Gazan children reaching bomb shelters?
     

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