Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. BillRM

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    Human life nonsense it is a possible future human life it is not a human life.

    Women are however fully human and have the right not to take the risks and even the discomfort to turn a fetus into a human baby against her wishes.

    I love how some anti abortions supporters wish to force a woman to even carry a rapist fetus to full term
     
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    NO, if abortion is banned women lose the basic human right of bodily autonomy, essentially becoming slaves.



    IF
    the fetus is deemed a person with rights with those rights come restrictions. NO one is allowed to use another person's body to sustain their life.

    Anti-choicers seem to want ZEFs to have more rights than born humans...!!!!




    NO, it is not. Bodily autonomy is a basic human right....
     
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    so are my fingernails and I trim them.
     
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    Daniel Light said:
    Now you just have to prove the woman isn’t protecting her own life when she decides to abort - given that ANY pregnancy can result in the death of the mother and not all such complications are identifiable prior to labor.




    What has that got to do with the post you quoted??
     
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    I don't know. Nor does anyone else. That's why it should be a states rights issue..

    All i am saying is that it is alive and human and has no potential to be anything other than that. Any one of us could die at any moment, we all have varying levels of experiencing human life, some experience very little of it. The right to that life is not negated by any factor other than due process or the defense of life.
     
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    Yeah. All of a sudden we are talking about rape? Bs.
     
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    I agree with everything you have said. (sans whether this should be a states rights issue .. not sure about that).

    Although one can find a few people that claim "Science Says its a human" - This a false claim as there is no such consensus .. in fact the consensus is the opposite.

    Either way - the best place the anti choice side can get to is what you have stated/inferred - "Experts disagree" "We don't know".

    Since we are talking law - it up to the choice side to present a valid legal argument for why "any" authority (be it Federal, State, Local) should be given power to violated the rights of the woman over her own body.

    Unless - one can make the argument that the zygote is a living human or a Person, with rights, including the right to life. In this case the Gov't would have legitimate authority - We now have two people with rights - and it is the Gov'ts legitimate authority to protect individuals in society from harm.

    This then becomes a case of conflicting rights .. The Judiciary must then weigh the rights of each individual against the other on the scales of Justice.

    The value on one side is heavy .. the rights of the Woman. How do we assign a value to the Zygote ? to "We don't know" / "We don't know otherwise" "experts disagree" ?

    The rights of the woman win by default.
     
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    The people writing an even getting such anti abortion laws on the books of some states are the ones talking about rape as not being a valid reason for abortions under the laws they are passing or trying to get pass.

    I guess those lawmakers are going after the rapists vote.
     
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    Again the analogy. Is it semantics if we refer to an acorn as an acorn and not an oak tree
     
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    Do you agree with the idiot congressman who claimed women's systems "shut down" during rape so they can't get pregnant?
     
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    Maybe.
     
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    Nope, no maybe about it...:)
     
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    So given that definition 100% of masterbation is the equivalent of MASS ABORTIONS and all men should have these abortions of their living human cells 21 times a month in order to avoid prostrate cancer.

    https://worldhealth.net/news/according-science-men-should-masterbate-21-times-month/
     
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    Women have miscarriages which "end human life"!

    Are you going to DEMAND that every woman who has a miscarriage MUST be put through "due process" because she just "ended a human life"?

    There is zero difference between a miscarriage and an abortion so HOW are you going to implement your miscarriage due process?

    Will you test all women each and every month to see if they are pregnant?

    Will you charge all of those who do not carry to term with murder of a human life?

    How much is this "due process" of yours going to cost taxpayers?
     
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    Your bible doesn't consider it to be human life! The penalty for causing a miscarriage was NOT death but just a small fine.
     
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    Absolutely. Thank you!
    If men were capable of facing this predicament we wouldn't even be having this debate.
     
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    I believe it was flo kennedy who said...if men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament
     
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    If men got pregnant there'd be a free abortion clinic on every corner and they would cheer each other when they came out..
     

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