Alabama woman charged in her unborn baby’s death, cops say another woman pulled trigger

Ha.... you ever been around a pregnant woman??

 

I suppose “Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force“ might apply, IF the assailant was using “unlawful” DEADLY physical force. I haven’t seen where she was using DEADLY physical force.

 

Well, if it makes you feel good about yourself to think that someone is agreeing with you, even though you need to look it it from an opticalanal view point, then you be you.

 

just glad we agreed on something, enjoy

 

But she caused the situation which resulted in it, that's why it is a manslaughter and not a first degree charge. If you are texting on your phone and run over someone with your car it would be a manslaughter charge because there was no malice towards the person by you but your actions caused that person's death. If you saw the person and decided you wanted to kill them and ran over them on purpose then there would be with malice and it would be first degree. If it was because you wanted to rob them or commit some other crime on them then it could be capital murder, I was on a jury once where the guy was guilty but it was a matter of first degree or capital murder. It the former he could get parole in the latter life without parole or even death, but he was a juvenile at the time of the crime so not subject to capital punishment. He should have been, the crime was horrible and he was just under 18.

 

So in the committance of a crime a human life was lost and you don't think there should be anyone charged?

 

can charge her for assault if she assaulted anyone, can not charge her for the abortion of her fetus that was against her will

if I was on the jury, I woudl vote not guilty for any type of murder charge as she did not murder anyone or shoot anyone

you actually have to have committed the crime to be guilty of the crime

 

Not if the other woman was acting in self defense which is what the grand jury concluded. She has every right to defend herself from another woman, whether that woman is pregnant or not.

 

No, it sounds as if it where a clear cut case of self defense.

 

Some folks will do or say ANYTHING to defend the killing of unborn children. This thread proves that.

 

Being shot with a handgun is not an abortion. This has absolutely nothing to do with abortion,
I know you guys will do or say ANYTHING to defend the killing of unborn children because you guys loves you some baby killin’ but this is just ridiculous.

 

Why are there still women in Alabama?

 

sure it is

https://www.medicinenet.com/miscarriage_causes_and_symptoms/article.htm

"
Abortion: In medicine, an abortion is the premature exit of the products of conception (the fetus, fetal membranes, and placenta) from the uterus. It is the loss of a pregnancy and does not refer to why that pregnancy was lost.

A spontaneous abortion is the same as a miscarriage.
"

your the one defending the one that shot the child, I am saying she (the potential mother) should not be charged for aborting the fetus as it was the other women that shot the fetus

being shot while pregnant is not a crime for the one being shot

 

Then the mother is at fault for making the conscious and deliberate decision to physically assault an innocent individual without legitimate cause. Had she not done such, had she exercised logical thinking, this situation would not have happened. Her actions were no different than deliberately jumping in front of a speeding motor vehicle in the middle of traffic.

 

It can take very little for any measure of force to lead to the death of another. There have been documented cases of a single punch to the face killing a person.

The bottom line of the matter, do not engage in criminal assault, do not get shot in response. It is literally that simple. Why is it that so many simply cannot comprehend such a basic concept?

 

This should shut up the Anti-Choicers who insist women will not be charged for having an illegal abortion.

 

Again, I understand how the law was written, I don't agree with it.

 

Again, I am not arguing that, I don't agree with the manslaughter charge.

 

To carry babies for conservatives.... and make dinner..

 

I wasn't on the jury. I'd need to know more about the fight and why the shot was fired.
Some observations however.

1. The whole incident is none of my business or anyone elses except the people involved so all my opinions are meaningless.

2. Did the woman fire in self defence? Was she in danger of serious injury.
3. A pregnant woman starting a fight doesn't care about her baby
4. Why was the woman shot in the belly?
Was the baby the intended target?

Too much stuff i don't know i trust that the jury rendered a satisfactory decision. They know a lot more about it than I do.

 

However, we still don’t know the exact nature of the aggression to “justify” the use of lethal force by the shooter. Since we’ve not heard that the shooter suffered any injuries, it’s hard to believe that she suffered any force that could have led to her death. The woman who was shot, OTOH, did indeed suffer an injury that could have been lethal to HER, not just the unborn.

 

Well said! I hope Australians learn from this post!

 

she is not guilty of a crime for the abortion, being stupid, sure.. assault maybe... but not manslaughter

 

This law of "if you kill a fetus, you're charged with the murder of a fetus" has never made sense. A dog is more of a living being than a fetus. If a intruder kills your dog, should that intruder get charged with murder? I would say yes, because the dog is an actual, independent, fully formed, living being. The fetus is simply a internal component of the mother. I didn't think New York would send an entire state over the edge like it has Alabama, but I'm honestly not surprised at this point.

 

The law is the law.