Alex-Jones radio station off the air gets shut down by FCC?

I clicked on the MSNBC link, and you're right. This is not a case of censorship. Operating without a license is illegal(if not only by Texas law, certainly by federal law.) Now, one can argue whether or not one should license material, but one of the major reasons for that is actually to protect intellectual property rights.

And if one group doesn't have to license, others will ask 'why not us', and thus our safety net against intellectual fraud would dissipate. The licenses are a necessary evil.

No matter left, right or insane, we need to consistently uphold American laws to protect American values. They did the right thing in shutting down the station.

 

Now, this brings to mind Youtube/Streaming videos. Technically, all you're using is your webcam to cord yourself and upload it to the net. So with these podcasts or with political/thought channels, etc is it okay for all of those to operate? Technically, it's being hosted and there's no license to any of the material on the free web. Basically, what's the difference between a streamer and a radio host?

 

THAT's the question. I linked the FCC court complaint, and as I understand it, the complaint just goes to the "pirate" radio, and the operators' denial the that FCC has jurisdiction over that (which is a fail)

HOWEVER I don't think pirate stations are OK if their broadcast power is over the FCC's limitation.

I have no idea what "listen lines" are.

A check of the Liberty Radio website, txlr.net, indicated the station stopped being transmitted over the air in December, but has been streaming online and via a call-in “listen line.”
https://www.mystatesman.com/busines...-jones-faces-15k-fine/IKeK5Z5IUjegmfqznULCLN/

 

'Go ball and read.'

You got me on that one.

You can link to Vimeo or Crackle from Twitter or Facebook. Heck, Facebook has its own video service.

What are you talking about Google for?

This thread is about Alex Jones, right? Why does Alex Jones need his own app store?

No. But I believe Google's lawyers can make the case he did.

Sure. Why not?

Amazon, Slideme, f-Droid, Apple Store, Windows App Store, or pay to have your root kit hacked, and download directly.

 

Go back and read.

He was banned from Facebook. In whay works is vimeo or crackle even close to YouTube?

Thats what I have been talking about. Why did you enter a conversation and not understand what it was about?

No it's about the FCC license. I don't personally care about dead formats.

Regardless of whether he did out not?

So no?

 

Go back and read what?

Well they offer the ability to post and share your own video content in the same way YouTube does. What would you like them to do?

The thread is about Alex Jones and an unlicensed radio station.

Great.

That is for lawyers to figure out. Not me.

Yes. Because you have an option of which phone to buy, you immediately have the option of GooglePlay, WindowsApps, or AppleStore. If you get an android phone and don't want GooglePlay, you can alternately use f-Droid, Amazon, Slidme, any of several others or get your root kit hacked.

What do you think a monopoly is?

 

You said you didn't understand my point.

Be honest.

Than it was ignorant of you to respond to me. I clearly wasn't talking about that.

I thought this thread was about the FCC and Alex Jones?

Okay Google and silicon valley is an oligopoly

 

Anarchy, silly

 

Maybe mommie gov can tuck you're little bum in tonight, after some cookies and milk

 

Well you are right its more of an oligopoly.

 

Right. Reading the lack of information again isn't going to clear that up. Who or what are you talking about?

If you don't like YouTube, you can go to any one of these companies which provide the same service.

Educate me. Legally, why is Twitter wrong to suspend Jones?

It can be that as well.

Hacking your root kit and downloading apps directly allows you to get around 'silicon valley's' structure. 'Silicon valley' just offers convenience. That's not an oligopoly. That's profiting from laziness. Good on them.

 

Correct; the internet is not regulated for program content. Over the air radio stations are regulated by law and as such, unless you are operating under part 15 of the FCC Rules and Regulations, you must have a license. The main difference between a streamer and a radio host is that the streamer is operating with very little restrictions on program content whereas a radio host has various restrictions imposed on them since they are "over the air" which is regulated by law.

 

Why are you talking to me if you can't understand?

They don't even come close to providing the same service.

Not sure there is s legal standing.

Oh so discussions are allowed to change and develop I doubt know because you were busy wetting your pants abit some dead format.

Hacking your root?

 

You are correct; the operators of the illegal station will find out in court.

Under part 15 of the FCC rules and regulations, unlicensed operator may broadcast as long as the power does not exceed 250 microvolts at 3 meters from the base of the antenna. Which means the station will normally be able to be picked up as far away as 300ft.

Listen lines are normally where one can call in and hear programming over there phone or other device (computer)which can call up the stations listen line otherwise known as internet feed. Many stations today stream their audio over the internet since its the wave of the future.

 

Well in the pie in the sky chance you'll explain.

And the pizza caterer that will actually cater my big gay wedding is nowhere near as delicious as Mama's Pizza that won't. But I have options.

Based on what in your professional legal opinion?

Getting flustered there, huh?

Smart phones have a root kit which define protections on the phone. You can hack it, and remove protections, and use the phone in new ways. I don't recommend it.

 

Yes.

Sure

No.

I'll tolerate Maxine Waters. You tolerate Alex Jones. Deal?

 

And now the guy who has made his living peddling crack pot nutcase conspiracy theories and out and out lies is complaining his enemies are lying about him???BOO HOO!!

 

Not necessarily. But it is the broadcast industry that should handle them, not the government. The government is bound by the first amendment. It is awful speech that needs constitutional protection.

 

But isn't that exactly what facebook and apple are doing, much to the displeasure of the Alex Jones aficionados? LOL

 

In that case, he needs to go get his license and THEN run his mouth. And like I said, if he never does and he's off the airwaves forever the world will be completely fine.

 

Your claims continue to be false.'

Nobody has the legal right to run just any old radio station they choose. They don't call it "pirate radio" for nothing.

I realize that you seem to have a lot invested in believing the conspiracy that you've manufactured.

Your claims are false. The evidence you cite even refutes your own claim.

Besides, nobody with any brains pays any attention to Alex Jones. He's a crackpot, a crank. He isn't worth the effort.

 

Not worth the effort...I agree. It is like looking for proof the lefties are low enough to pull crap like censoring people when you know it is true.....

 

That is something of a myth. The German people knew what was going on, and helped it.

Read this

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Willing-Executioners-Ordinary-Holocaust/dp/0679772685

 

The "pirate radio" everyone refers to was a half watt nothing shut down long ago. Jones is still broadcasting nation wide over hundreds of affiliate stations every single day....including today!

And in principal, shutting down Alex Jones should alarm everyone who claims to believe in the Bill of Rights.

 

Yes, it is.

The FCC requires broadcasters be licensed, and this pirate radio station is being sued for "for willful and repeated violation" of U.S. law" since 2013.