Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - fear and loathing has conservatives shuddering

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  1. EarthSky

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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is giving the Washington the kind of shake up that Donald Trump threatened to do before he was cowed by the conservative establishment and showed for the kind of feckless, bombastic, con-man adn blow-hard that he is and always was.

    As her political star rises so do the continuous attacks by right-wingers across the board and even the ruling elites in her own party who are not quite sure how to handle the threat to the status quo they enjoy that AOC represents.

    Opinionated, smart, savvy and increasing hooking into the interests of younger voters and minorities, Ocasio-Cortez is bringing up issues and ideas that the Washington establishment simply does not want to talk about.

    A recent opinion piece in the Guardian talks about recent attacks on AOC by conservative Grace-Marie Turner suggests that conservatives are outraged because she does not respect their ignorance and that they dismiss her at their peril:

    As you can imagine, the congresswoman had a few words to say in response to this, tweeting on Thursday that: “I guess WSJ Editorial Page takes pride in their ignorance of our nation’s history of slavery, Jim Crow, & mass incarceration; willful doubt on the decades of science on climate change; targeting of indigenous peoples, and the classist, punitive agenda targeting working families.”

    "Ocasio-Cortez hit the bigoted nail on the head with that. After all, what Turner was essentially saying in her op-ed was that minorities should respect a system that doesn’t respect them. That Ocasio-Cortez, who “doesn’t come from a rich and powerful family”, doesn’t have an Ivy League education, and has Puerto Rican heritage, should be grateful she is allowed to exist in America, let alone succeed. And that AOC certainly shouldn’t mess with the laws of nature and history that mean rich white men, and a few rich white women, are our leaders and superiors. Turner, and conservatives like her, are terrified by Ocasio-Cortez because she symbolizes a new generation who aren’t going to shut up and be grateful, but are intent on changing an unequal system."

    "If you need any more evidence of how panicked conservatives are about the young congresswoman, just take a look at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, which features heavy doses of Ocasio-Cortez scaremongering. Perhaps the most ridiculous examples of this was Sebastian Gorka, a former Trump official, announcing to the crowd that democratic socialists like Ocasio-Cortez “want to rebuild your home … [and] take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved.” Republican men are clearly terrified AOC is coming for their meat."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/02/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-republicans-ignorance

    Apart from the usual attacks of being hysterical or crazy that have followed young women who speak their minds for generations, what are the legitimate criticisms of AOC's policy positions such as universal health care and the New Green Deal?

    Should all these policies be merely written of as "socialism" which is shaping up to be a key slogan platform for both parties in 2020, though few Americans probably understand the term or the different interpretations of it's implementation in democratic countries, or are these policies worthy of legitimate debate in 21st century America?
     
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    It's hilarious that you are trying to present this as something serious even worth discussing.

    If you aren't aware of her litany of absurd ideas then you have been living in a cave for the last 6 months.
     
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    But lots of people are discussing it in case you haven't noticed. I was hoping someone could take one of her "Absurd" ideas and discuss it openly on this thread.

    Pick one. Green New Deal; Universal Health Care: Education Reform, and let's discuss it.
     
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    Shuddering? Laughing out loud more likely, but continue to live in delusionland.
     
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    Such a waste of an otherwise restful day.......
     
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    But she is hot. That's something. Well, OK. One thing.
     
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    Actually, I think we're overall glad that there's someone like AOC out in the public sphere.
     
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    She’s a walking talking gaffe machine. Don’t mistake mockery for fear.
     
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    In other words:

    Just Like TRUMP?
     
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    she thought that the reason why unemployment with solos because people were working two jobs. She thought because Amazon didn't build the distribution center in New York City that New York city's somehow magically gets 3 billion dollars. I guess she thinks the tooth fairy will give the city that.
     
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    So do you hate her as much as you do Trump? Or do you like her for the way Republicans react to her?
     
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    Everyone has different standards I guess.
     
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    "....and then, suddenly, they all just died of fright!

    The end."

    Let that be a lesson to you kids, never allow your mind to become captured by a self reinforcing echo chamber which builds one ignorant lie atop another.
     
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    Actually, very much like Trump. Congrats on that.
     
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    I think she is a joke. Hope her district votes her out next election.
     
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    With you, all roads lead to Trump.
     
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    Yep, she's a much younger Joe Biden style gaff-master on political steroids in that she almost never says anything intelligent. In my opinion that makes her the perfect and perfectly telling new Dem Party political mascot. Definitely future leftist presidential material there in the making.
     
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    AOC is a 29 year old fresh woman congressperson and the right is going into paroxysms.
     
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    No kidding.

    She has pushing RW buttons down to a science.
     
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    She is the gift that keeps on giving, the poster child of liberal/progressive ignorance, stupidity and lunacy, she will be a major factor contributing to Trump's reelection in 2020....

    Why am i telling what you already know anyway? This frankly pathetic attempt at damage control trying to show the right as shuddering when the right is ecstatic isn't fooling anyone.
     
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    She's causing in fighting between the socialist Left and the almost as bad Left in the DNC, what's not to like.
     
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    AOC is causing discussion with in the Dems and kitty fits among the Pubs.
     
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    AOC is a pathetic clown, that shows the depths that the left has fallen. She is a byword and a symbol of madness and corruption that the anti-American left has embraced.

    The destruction of America is their only goal, and the insane players, and their bobbleheaded enablers only show how depraved and ruined we are, as a culture.
     
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    FC6EC571-B36D-49CB-9A5E-BD974CF9A214.jpeg We know what hot can get ya.

     
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    ....of laughter when we found out the GND would cost 90 trillion dollars. Personally I think that's a gross underestimate when you consider how many jobs will be lost.
     

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