All schools shut down in Augusta County, Virginia, over Islam homework

The original origin of Christmas in December, was a winter celebration known as the Winter Solstice. It was Christianity which placed the birth of Jesus on December 25th to celebrate, incorporating pagan beliefs and holiday's, as they normally did in those olden times, to encourage religious conversion. The Christian Latin mass replaced the pagan (which simply means non-Christian), Black Mass. Early Christian evangelicals like Peter and Paul, Patrick ( a Roman who converted Ireland and the Gaelic's ), incorporated most of the local pagan holidays and beliefs into a form of Christianity encouraging conversion. Jesus' actual birth occurred around February 12th or possibly April if I remember my history. The ancient world and its study is fascinating, particularly because religion, myths, legends play such an important part. Although the Trojan War actually took place, on the coast of Turkey, east of Greece, the interference and protection extended throughout the war by the Greek Gods to individual personages is fiction. The Christian church of modern times is more the creation of Paul (or St.Paul if you are of the Catholic persuasion), than the message of the simple Nazarine, Jesus. Paul's conversion according to Biblical accounts occurs 7-years after Jesus' death, on the Damascus Road, where he is knocked to the ground and blinded, and hears the voice of God telling him to preach Jesus' message to the Gentiles, Jesus never preached to anybody but the Jews in his public ministry. Thus Paul's conversion is a religious one, where the original Apostles who accompanied Jesus in his ministry, are eyewitness accounts. Legend and lore are powerful the older they become. Jesus didn't die on the Christian Good Friday day, he was put to death on Thursday, because that particular year was a Jewish Jubilee Year, with two Sabbath days, Friday and Saturday, and the Roman's honored local Jewish tradition in Palestine, as long as it didn't border on rebellion. When faced with that, the Roman's were quick and showed no mercy, so if one isn't religious, a very good case can be made that, being in Jerusalem for the Jewish Jubilee celebration (sorry about the alliteration), with his followers, and the Roman's seeing his huge popularity, feared him, and simply crucified him as a rebel. Another of the Christian legends is that of the persecution and death of the early Christians in Rome, in the Coliseum. Probably none went to their deaths in that public spectacle, as even Roman documents record how bravely they met their fates. Only slaves were put to death in the Roman Coliseum for the amusement of the citizens. Had the Christian's bravery been put on public display, meeting their deaths in public, sympathy for them would have been massive from the citizens of Rome, who respected and rewarded bravery. The Roman leadership understood that, and didn't persecute the Christian's in this public spectacle, they did it to their slaves, of which 2/3'rds of the cities population were members of that class. What we call history - when it relates to the various religions - could very well be mere legend - or misunderstandings, which have come down to us for centuries. Told enough times, legend and lore can, in fact, become religious fervor (as Islam did), or miraculous "sky-people" waiting to take are spirits, or souls, to their utopia at our deaths, or throw our souls into permanent agony if we died with a bad heart and a sinner, and what is and what isn't sinful, is certainly open to interpretation throughout history. If the "sky people" and their leader (Moses; Abraham; Jesus; Muhammad-Allah), are waiting to rescue our souls, than in actuality, modern religious beliefs are not much different than those of the Ancient Greek and Roman gods. Judaism and the Romans would have crucified me for writing that in the 1st century..............

 

Probably an isolated affair---unlike whole provinces and nations taken over by radical Islamic purists.

The UK will be under the sword of Islam long before the US---if it will make you any happier.

 

Umm, doing a homework assignment that states “There is no god but Allah; Muhammad is his prophet.”, is an endorsement.

 

Just a little sanity the whoop-whoop-group will probably object to.

cal·lig·ra·phy


/kəˈliɡrəfē/


noun

noun: calligraphy




decorative handwriting or handwritten lettering.

synonyms: handwriting, script, penmanship, hand, pen
"the scribe's meticulous calligraphy"




•the art of producing decorative handwriting or lettering with a pen or brush.

 

If the teachers and coaches get fired, suspended and removed when it's a Christian, why would it be any different if it were Islam?

No, it's not.

It wasn't discussion, it was copying an Islamic prayer.

You want to teach your kid about other cultures, teach them at home. Send them to a Christian school, or Islamic school.

 

Context.

Awesome.

 

A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence. [note 1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that aim to explain the meaning of life, the origin of life, or the Universe.

The separation of church and state is a concept defining the distance in the relationship between organized religion and the nation state. It may refer to creating a secular state, with or without explicit reference to such separation, or to changing an existing relationship of church involvement in a state (disestablishment).

Your ignorance has been cured. Blessed be upon the prophet.

 

No it is not. Only in the disconnected 'minds' of those who want to see it as an endorsement. If I say, 'I could kill for a cold beer' on a hot day, do you think my plan is to murder someone?

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Really? Can I borrow your crystal ball for next week's lottery numbers?

 

No, leave it until the child is old enough and mature enough to make a rational decision as to what it chooses to believe or otherwise. A parent forcing his beliefs on a child is no better than a preacher doing it. 'Believe this because I say so'?

 

Not even close. No one takes "I could kill for " literally, where as “There is no god but Allah; Muhammad is his prophet.” is meant to be taken literally. Any number of other words or phrases could have been assigned to practice calligraphy.

 

Yes, if it is being preached as such which clearly was not the case. Of course you can argue that the geography class was a stealth Islamic indoctrination attempt, but you'll excuse me if I laugh at the suggestion that the kids in the class were told that the phrase was to be taken literally.

 

Wouldn't matter if they were told to take it seriously or disregard it's meaning. It wouldn't matter whether it came with instructions or not. The phrase “All you need to do to go to heaven is ask Jesus into your heart.” would not be allowed in public school and you know it. So neither should any phrase of any faith. Allow all in or none in.

 

This is what you can expect to see happen in government schools. Some extremist teacher is
probably justifying this homework for one reason or another. Not thinking? No there was
thinking. It's that the thinking was bad and it may have had a politically corrupt (some say correct)
stain to it.

 

Apples and oranges. The phrase for the homework meant one thing and one thing only. And
yes, the kids are smart enough to know the difference.

I thought left winged extremists were against religion being used in schools. We both know that
the phrase by Jesus, "I am the way, the truth and the life" wouldn't be tolerated by the hardliners
for a single moment.

 

"wouldn't be tolerated by the hardliners for a single moment."
Or for any reason.

 

Maybe if the teacher used the phrase to connect the violence approved of by Muhammad
then it would be appropriate.

Something like this:
"There is no god but allah, and Mohammed is the messenger of allah and both approve of the
violence and terrorism toward infidels that is taking place in the US and Europe." That would be
acceptable to me. Then the teach could teach what an infidel is, i.e. someone that isn't a
practitioner of that "religion of peace".

The kids need to be taught the truth.

 

Blah blah. There really is no comparison. The Middle East is rife with theocratic dictatorships, which directly correlates to the geography of the region, and directly manifests in the culture of the middle east itself.

For example, the social structure of our culture is not so dominated by a theocratic dictatorship, though the grotesque horror of such a thing is hitherto desired by many sects of christians the country over, that it would merit inclusion in a cultural discussion about the united states as a nation.

However, when discussing the culture of Saudi Arabia, or Iran, one must include with all necessity the theocratic dictatorships that shaped and in many ways still directs those cultures as a whole.

As one poster put it, they do not want their children exposed to Islam at such a young age.

To those posters I'd say; such manifest fear is the exact thing that the morbid and afflicted followers of Salafi Islam want; moreover, those same extremists are relying upon your nonsensical, irrational, blown way out of proportion fear to make their nihilistic worldview a possibility.

Do I think it's good to include -any- religion in school? No. All of it should be dismissed for the rude, offensive, controlling, power hungry and insane nonsense that they are. However, the schools closed not for a threat of muslim extremism; but idiotic fear and rabid anger by closed minded morons who believe they can sheild their children from the world.

If only they knew the true futility in the attempt, they'd relent. Even more, if they realized how ridiculous any of these beliefs are, including more likely their own, we'd be able to accept it as a taste of mythology rivalling mother goose in creative aspect.

More to the point, it simply reinforces the notion that religion is absolutely damaging to human society and humane function; it seeks only to consume and destroy in its quest for more power.

 

totally agree there should of been disciplinary action for the teacher... closing down all the schools every time a Christian or Muslim Teacher did something like this though would be a bit much

 

Amen, I think this was good for Christians to see how they would feel if the shoe was on the other foot for a change though... they did not like it one bit

 

... by declaring you agree with their religion, keeping it secret that you are doing so.

A lot of racist exist. Teachers should require students write out total agreement with them too to acknowledge that they exist.

This topic shows the total, absolute hypocrisy of many liberals. They are just fine with requiring students to declare they are Islamic. Anything pro-Islam and pro-Muslim those liberals are for, but they absolutely hate anything Christian.

 

It isn't about exposing children to Islam. It is about requiring children to write out total allegience to the religion of Islam for a geography class, when caligraphy, writing in Arabic and requiring students to make the personal religious declaration of faith has exactly NOTHING to do with "geography."

But try. Try to explain who writing out that There is only one God named Allah and Muhammed is his prophet has anything to do with geography. Why didn't the teach then also have the students write out "Jesus Christ is Lord" in Greek or Hebrew in teaching geography, huh?

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Really? Name any public school that requires students to write out they are Christians in any language. You can't, can you? But I could be wrong. It is not impossible that you have some intellectual integrity and are merely reciting the pro-Islam, anti-Christian stance of what appears now a majority of Democrats.

 

I hate christianity because it shackles people to an oppressive and all together horrifying mythology that condones slavery, rape, murder, genocide, self flagellation and allows the most backwater and ridiculous of its constituents an outlet for their rabid hatred of gays, blacks and sundry other people they seek to control.

I don't hate christians. I pity them, for their acceptance of cosmic deities that control and oppress humanity. I pity them because they excuse their poor actions by way of their religion. And finally, I pity them, because they have nothing to live for, but everything to die for.

Call me a liberal all you like; my points remain, and my assertions are just that; my assertions. You can dismiss them as the rantings of a liberal if you would like, but at least, at the end of all things, I can say I was consistent in my rabid distaste for religions and what they imply.

 

Actually, you are incorrect. I can go into further detail why including anything about the religion is more pertinent in areas where theocratic brainwashing is commonplace and has had massive impacts on the culture there, but it is a futile attempt, and you know it as well as I.

Pledge allegience? Did the teacher command the students convert to Islam? Since when does this make them muslims? Your assertion is thus without merit and completely irrelevant agitprop.

The teacher should have had no students write anything of any religious value in any school. The problem is, however, that fools and quacks will not accept the very real evidence that christianity has long held sway over all schools in this nation - by including "God" in various forms, including the pledge of allegience, on our commerce, etc.

Christianity, Islam, Judaism - again, all rotten fruit from the singularly twisted root of Abrham, all cancerous and all dangerous religions that wage war and create mindslaves.

Get rid of them all. All of them.

 

where did I say that, I said closing down all schools in a district any time a Christians or Muslims proselytizes to students is a bit much, the teachers should be disciplined though... in either case

and if they refuse to stop.... fire them (they can try to find a job at a Christian or Muslim private school that would allow that nonsense)

your funny, I am saying both religions shroud be treated the same, neither allowed in our public school and you somehow see that as pro-Islam

I am pro-religious freedom for all.... and that requires religion not be proselytized in our schools by our government.. any religion...

as for your other comment, did they close down all school here

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...d_on_public_school_students_in_louisiana.html

"During health class, students at Airline High, a public school in Bossier Parish, Louisiana, read Bible passages, and their teacher asks them to identify their favorite verses."

I would say the exact same thing in that case, discipline the teachers, don't close down all the schools in the area.... would you say the same?


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we can't dictate what a parent wants to teach their child on their own time, that is up to them, we can dictate what the gov teaches them