All schools shut down in Augusta County, Virginia, over Islam homework

No, your cites did NOT show that.

It DID show a fair amount of opposition to US foreign policy. But, there is ample reason for that.

Look, you want to believe the terrorists. That is a gigantic mistake.

 

If schools telling children Allah is God and should be celebrated is wrong then why is telling the Jesus is the Christ and should be celebrated OK?

 

Most of the kindest, gentlest and more decent people I know are Christians, though not all are. I'm not.

I do not know ONE Christian who "condons slavery, rape, murder, genocide" or has a "rabid hatred of gays, blacks and sundry other people they seek to control." Those I know are of the view of "faith, hope, love, the greatest of these is love" and "Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world. Red and yellow, black and white, they're the same in Jesus sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world." That children's song broke slavery in the USA.

Who appears consumed by hate is you.

 

Whether I would close the school down would depend upon the danger of not doing so.

Reality is very difficult for some people to grasp it seems. Few people are Nazis. If a teacher had children drawing Swatikas as homework assignments, I could see shutting the school down for a day to get a handle on this because most people are not Nazis. The same with giving a homework assignment requiring students to write out a declaration that they are of the Islamic faith. The same if the teacher had them drawing satanic pentagrams.

Most people in that community likely are not offended by Christianity. As much as you hate the reality, Christianity has been overwhelming the popular ideology basically forever in this country.

It is about the children, not about your ideological neutrality as if everyone has to be the clone of you that you demand the be and act like. Rather than dealing with protests, they opted to close the school until it made known to all the problem had been solved. If there was a possibility of widespread protesting over Bible verses a school should do the same.

It's not about you and your ideology. It is about the people there.

 

What has never been identified is who originally came up with this geography class assignment that has absolutely NOTHING to do with geography.

To understand geography, should students also be required to write out Nazi slogans in German that the students don't understand? That was the "logic" of that geography teacher, unless the teacher is just REALLY stupid and didn't realize those were actual words. A teacher that stupid should be fired.

 

I am fortunate too, I know many Muslims and Christians, all good

I do have one family that is a extreme religious fanatic on steroids, but only see them on a couple holidays a year, easy enough to steer clear of them, they treat not being a Christian like anti-smokers treat smokers

do not have any Muslim family members, but work with a few, nice people

have many Christian Family members, I was raised Christian, some of the best people I know are Christians...

just because I disagree with Muslims and Christians beliefs doesn't mean they are all bad people, just a very small percent are

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really unless they were teaching the language as an elective, I see no reason to teach it period, would be like teaching ancient Hebrew to sneak the bible verses in

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Fail, what is it about religion in public schools that you don't understand. For (*)(*)(*)(*)s sake, you can't even call Christmas break, umm Christmas break in schools. So if we are going to apply the standards evenly, it's only fair to keep other religious dogma out of the class room.

 

You can't call it Christmas break? I've been to three different schools and people don't care whether you call it Christmas break or Winter break. It honestly shouldn't be such a huge issue. It's like people who freak out over "Happy Holidays" replacing "Merry Christmas". No one really cares, in my experience.

 

Just say what you want back to them. I say merry Christmas except if it's Channuka time and I know that the person is Jewish and observes I will wish them a happy Chanukah. I ignore that dumb arsed artificial make believe "holiday " of kwanza. I would not know what to say to a Muslin at Ramadan but I really do not care to say anything because maybe they could go off like they did about the cartoons.....

 

Nobody is disputing this. Those theocratic dictatorships stem from that "religion of peace". They
are only following their esteemed prophet and supreme example. If anything I made that very clear.
Muhammad was all about power.

This is true only if you leave Christianity out of this equation. Christianity has done more to improve
humans lives than any other societal experiment.

Before you try to incorporate the "Spanish Inquisition", etc. you must ask yourself how that had anything
to do with the teachings of Jesus. NOT the church. The church isn't necessarily Christianity. This
includes abortion mill bombings, gay hating and a multitude of other actions that don't line up with the
teaching of Jesus.

If it doesn't line up with the teachings of Jesus then it isn't Christianity.

Jesus IS Christianity. It's that simple.

 

Well if, as you say, the kids are smart enough to know the difference then they are also smart enough to know they aren't being preached at.

 

The phrase used was itself preaching. It's a statement. You're the only one on PF that doesn't understand that.

 

Did you read the link? I don't think you read the link. It had nothing to do with US foreign policy. It had to do with the overwhelming majority of Muslims supporting barbaric totalitarian perspective of Islam. Where you seem to have difficulty is that this perspective IS Islam... which is not yours of it.

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To support your position. Demonstrate that it is. I doubt you even remember it. I expect you are too lazy to get back to it. I assume you will simply hurl more insults because you don't actually care. Weakness is funny that way.

 

Who wants to make a bet that the parents complaining were white?

 

Probably, because it must have been someone with cajones.

 

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with this OP, or my post. If you want to debate which party is the party of the rich, then start a new topic, and I'll meet you there. This topic is about liberal hypocrisy in keeping Christian, or Jewish texts out of public schools while having school children copy Muslim testaments of faith. Imagine the liberal uproar if they were studying the Vatican in Rome, and had the kids copy John 3:16:

Or studying Israel and had them copy Genesis 1:1:

 

Your signature proves my point. While we might agree on this incident, we agree for different reasons. I come at the incident from a freedom of religion. It is obvious that you come at the problem from a freedom from religion position. I don't so much care that the lesson included a lesson on Islam. That doesn't bother me. I do care that it teaches about Islam, while refusing to teach about Judaism and Christianity. A lesson plan that teaches only one religion is an endorsement of that religion. I personally believe they should teach all religions. Not just those that the liberals find is fashionable.

 

You do realize that schools teaching Mediaeval English is not allowed to use the King James Bible in their lessons. Instead they use Shakespeare or Chaucer. Why? Because the liberals claim that it would be proselytizing. So, you have a lesson plan that states that Islam does not allow idols. This is why the Mosques are covered by Arabic Calligraphy. On the assignment it said, "Here is the Shahada, the Islamic statement of faith, written in Arabic. In the space below, try to copy it by hand."



Now how long do you think it would it take for a student to enter the Shahada into his/her browser, and get the following:

So how is that not proselytizing?

 

You are dead wrong and are misrepresenting the topic. This topic is NOT ABOUT" liberal hypocis about risy in keeping Christian, or Jewish texts out of public schools while having school children copy Muslim testaments of faith." It is about a school homework project of calligraphy and unfortunately using Arabic script and further unfortunately using the basic Muslim statement of creed. It is not about teaching any religion. I abject to the homework assignment because it is wrong for this point in time considering that we have just undergone a Muslim terrorist attack.

If you want to talk about no religion being thought in public school please go ahead but create a thread for that don't try to hijack this one.

 

That or they had to be in school in order to complain in the first place.

 

This doesn't invalidate the apples and oranges comment, but I enjoyed your dodge. You're
very entertaining.

Now let's try to be serious.

Why do you support preaching religion in government schools? Please provide a rational
reason since you do support preaching religion in school.

 

Because even your quote merely explains what the phrase means. It does not say 'you must believe this' like a preacher in a church or an Imam in a mosque might. I suggest that the kids in that class are a hell of a lot brighter than some people who cannot see anything Arabic without thinking 'Sharia is coming' and launching into hysterics.

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This was not preaching in any sense. Quit throwing strawman arguments around, you'll lose every time.

 

Yes, yes, and the age old addage "He who murders does not have christ in his heart". More annoyance, more agitprop, more apologist BS.

You see, religion, like anything else, is just another means for the rich to control the poor. Look at Islamic terror. Look then at the 70 years of this nation's history, in which our supreme leaders have created, nearly from thin air, various boogeymen to keep us OK with them stealing our money.

Call me a liberal and a conspiracy theorist, then. But, what do you make of the notion that our government has been subverted by a group of extremely wealthy, extremely powerful families, who pull the strings, and ensure we're in a near constant state of war?

For example, Islamic extremism. Once the Soviet Union fell, what happened? There was no longer the vast shadow of communism to use as our Boogeymen. Why then was Communism the boogeyman? Because the rich were terrified that communism would strip them of their power.

What then of WWII? The best puppet - a far right fascist dictator as a bulwark against Russia. Don't believe me? Who then did Rotschild, Bush, Ford, etc. fund? It couldn't be Nazi Germany!

What then of Kennedy? Couldn't be that the powers that be bankrolled assassins to murder the president, who wanted to end Vietnam.

Now, we've got Islamic Extremism. Sure, I hate the religion. Religion is a vapid and tedious beast, but is also just another means of a few taking from the many.

And, with our inability to think critically, we missed that point. Who profits from religion?

It's not the masses, fed their delusional promises of everlasting life, as long as they donate their worldly wealth to the church.

It's those select few at the top of the food chain, with their jets and their fancy cars.

Now, more to the point. Our new boogeyman is islamic extremism. Sure. We can claim Iran is the source - but we must be ashamed, since after all, it was US who overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran, after he nationalized.... THE OIL, and allowed the Shah to take power. But, we stand aghast at the extremism... we created!

This has gone on, too, too far. The rabbit hole goes too deep. Religion is just another ploy, a control scam, and you bought it hook line and sinker.