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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why would you not vote?
    Seems pointless really.
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see that last part perfectly clear, the POTUS is elected by the electoral college. They do not have to vote for the person the people did. I am not saying that they don't, I am saying they do not have to.

    You only have more freedom in your minds.

    To quote another. Unfree have altered perception of being free.
     
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  3. LeftRightLeft

    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry my quote had bad grammar, if I had wrote it it would have said.
    "Unfree have AN altered perception of being free.
    Or
    Unfree have altered perceptionS of being free."

    But who am I to teach grammar to y'all
     
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    There is no truth...only perception....Flaubert...
     
  5. LeftRightLeft

    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Sorry my name isn't Flaubert.

    Life is like a box of chocolates, Forest Gump's mother.

    Well bless her heart. Gomer Pyle
     
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  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is under State Law.

    California requires electors to vote as directed.

    BTW anyone on Board know why the Electoral College was formed?
    History, not HERstory




    Moi :oldman:
    Got FREEDOM?
    Less and less.



    :flagcanada: FREE Meng Wanzhou!
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  7. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My best friend never votes because he decided
    he wouldn't want to put his will on another.
    May not make sense but, he is FREE to not vote as he decides
    in a FREE country, without penalty.
     
  8. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's not freedom it's irresponsibility.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FREE TO BE Sallyally IRRESPONSIBLE in a FREE Nation.
    Remember, Commies made citizens vote. ​

    Primum non nocere

    First do no harm.
    No harm. No crime.
     
  10. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your freedom is a delusion. Tried not paying your income tax lately?
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    It was formed in the days before telegraph, when any news about politics had to be sent by a rider on horse back etc

    Do you need more information to know I know what I am talking about ?

    Why is the ballot system used in the USA called "the Australian ballot". Do you know?
     
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    A bit more, so news about what was going on in Washington would take days to reach some states and days to get a reply back.
    So those states chose a representative to sit in Washington and make decisions for them.

    How am I going
     
  13. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean that "Butterfly Ballot" used in Florida during Bush v Gore?

    Please, educate Moi.


    When the constitution was conceived and written in secret, there were those who distrusted the unwashed masses and those like Jefferson who did.
    Remember, Senators were appointed by State Governors, not freely elected.
    And the Electoral College was a safety in the event "the people voted wrong".
    Washington-Adams-Hamilton v Madison-Jefferson, etc.

    Nothing to do with a telegraph.
    What part do I have incorrect?


    The Electoral College is a compromise.
    Compromises involved in designing a Constitution all could support.
    The 3/5ths clause.
    2 houses of Legislative Branch. One based on geography, the other by population.
    History, not HERstory.
     
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    LMAO your reason is worse than mine. I must have read the wrong books I will google it when I have time. So the most free cough cough people in the world in the greatest democracy in the world, their vote isn't worth a pinch of salt really is it?

    So stop knocking our system where everyones vote counts and every one votes.
     
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    That's how you got the grossest excuse for a human let alone a man as your POTUS when the majority of people think he is a dick and the Unfree people who unvoted for the unpresident can't undo it. You are no where near as free as we are
     
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    Wow I thought the USA was a democracy but if the voice of the people can be snuffed out and disregarded because a small number of people think that the "people voted wrong". LMAO, isn't a democracy ABOUT the voice of the people. Or is the US version of democracy being "the voice of the people as long as some people like what the majority want and if they don't ,well we will DICTATE what the people want.

    Wow I am thankful I live in a country where my voice is as equal as any other voice.
     
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    Specifically, what part above did "Moi" have it wrong and save the ridicule.

    The Madison Compromise? That's about democracy+geography Geographic o cracy

    The 3/5ths Clause
    The Electoral College.


    @LeftRightLeft Please reply to above, apology for addition below.
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    Or just the ability as a FREE people to boost someone to the Presidency
    outside the approval of the Legislative Branch of gov't.?
    A governor like Jimmy Carter.
    A business maven like Donald Trump.
    A governor like Bush Jr.
    FREE of the Legislative Branch's senility system.

    Every Vote Count
    :roflol:
    Which of 2 or 3 bought old parliamentarians y'gonna vote for?
    The USSR counted every vote too and everyone voted.
    At least Russians knew they were not Free, the UnFree do not know.



    Moi :oldman:
    FREE Not To Vote!







    :flagcanada: FREE Meng Wanzhou!
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  18. LeftRightLeft

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    Just one little bit .That you are free, it's just the illusion of freedom.

    The appropriate 25 million eligible voters in California for instance ,their vote means nothing if 270 electoral college votes disagree. Unfree, undemocratic .unbelievable in a modern world
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says a culture granted FREEDOM :rolleyes:
    on their majesty's whim. Australia lacks a cultural
    Australia could have been, GREAT.
    Australia could have been FREE, vs UnFree
    if founded on a proper revolution.

    Australia could still be GREATer for Australians
    if only the gov't was Trumpesque as in
    Australia First!
    Seriously, Australia should invest in self sufficiency, not globalism.


    Moi Supports the Great Interior Lakes projects.
    Ref.: Salton Sea.
    With Wind, Sun, and Musk desalinate ocean water into great, interior lakes.
    So what if they become salty.
    Open land to agriculture and biodiversity.



    Moi :oldman: :flagus:







    :flagcanada: FREE Meng Wanzhou!
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. LeftRightLeft

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    If Australia became Trumpesque, I would leave it. The country would be split like the US is with the right wing nut jobs and the NRA running the country.

    We don't need a moron running the country ,we had one, nearly as bad as the tool running America but we got rid of him because Australia is a democracy unlike the US where a couple of hundred people override the democratic choice of 10's of millions of Unfree people who have to accept the choice of the few hundred because true democracy doesn't exist except in the minds of the brain washed people

    The Unfree Ununited States of America is not a democracy by definition.

    When do think the American Civil War will end. The USA (Ununited States of America) is further from a democracy than Russia is .
     
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    A hypothetical for you Moi.

    Before the last election, you are elected to the California electoral college. That means that you represent the voice of about 60 000 people.

    After the people's vote is counted, 59 999 people voted for Hillary. For whom would you cast your electoral college vote?
     
  22. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Give it a rest
    @LeftRightLeft
    Moi be.
     
  23. LeftRightLeft

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    You started it girl but typically American you don't mind starting conflicts, it's finishing them you have an issue with.

    Simple question, one word answer. WHY do you refuse to answer.
     
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    I know exactly why.
     
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    OMG, you think you have a great success and it turns you into the a green eyed monster...If you really want to complain about the US electral system, perhaps you should go and tell the US part of the forum... We know why you don't
     
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