Well excuse me I didn't know you were the boss. Moi brought up the topic with just about every post. She compares our two systems so I am just expanding on her argument which is the people of America elect their president. She then goes on to denigrate ours. I was simply pointing out that their system with electoral colleges is not only undemocratic, it was actually designed to be undemocratic. It was designed according to Moi, so that the college could completely ignore the wishes of the people they represent. According to Moi, that it can override the democratic choice of the people, is why it exists. Something you would expect from Russia, China, Korea etc Control over and the legal power to ignore the democratic choice of the American people. I thought that the electoral college idea was something stupid and obsolete, not that it was opening a door to the complete removal of the concept of the Democratic system. California is approximately 10% of the USA's population and it roughly has a college of 500 so one could assume that there are about 5000 members to represent 235 million voters. They are under no legal obligation to vote the way the people they represent vote. The can, but that is not their role ,their role is to vote against the people they represent, basically if they feel the people voted the wrong way . Dress it up however you like. So I put Moi in a hypothetical but very possible position where to vote for the people she represents choice, she has to vote for the person she hates. To not give one vote for the person she wants, but to give him approximately 40000 votes is in her power. I just asked her hypothetically, which way she would vote. Who would she give 40 000 votes?
Well excuse me, but as I said, Think you have a great success and you turn into a green eyed monster. Since it is me who is looking on in your discussion, YES, I am one you are trying to convince of your argument making me the “boss” so to speak. Since you are trying to compare something such as that to what you constitute as being democratic simply tossing your insults and demands does not improve your argument. Weather somebody answers your questions or not is up to them. The value of the question and the answer if returned is up to me, NOT you. Again making me the “boss”. So you were correcting Moi, Really??? How insulting, YOU want to proclaim others are claiming always to have the right opinions but you’re not only claiming you are the absolute correct, you claim your stance as a fact because… You decided. So because you decided it was a fact you must be right. Well ok, that is fine. Since it is an American principle, perhaps you could take it to them??? I simply put to you the very attempt you try to demean Moi with while your so busy trying to correct her on her( I now assume) belief on how her electoral system is designed and how it represents democracy. Perhaps you should also clearly explain the motive of their forefathers who designed their electoral system and how they deliberately interred their entire nation into… Servitude, would you demand??? Not just insult us all with this meaningless drivel. Since you isolate American Federal politics from their state politics I would take this opportunity to point out to you that in Australia, the power does not lay in the federal government either( oh and I am assuming this in America). I see the difference, and I see the similarities. BUT I don’t intend to insult people as to tell them I know more about their electoral system than they know themselves. Especially when it is clear you are making the electoral system in isolation to the rest of the American system.
Rubbish it's all rubbish. One bit ,you accused me of correcting Moi, of demeaning her when if read what I wrote and attacked what I wrote rather than attacking me for having the audacity to write it. You use all types of derogatory remarks like saying I was demeaning and what I write is meaningless drivel. Moi actually corrected me and I accepted the correction. If you really want to see "meaningless drivel", just read the post I quoted above.
I didn't accuse you, YOU told me you were. I don’t care what Moi did, the point is it is meaningless drivel. What does it prove??? You right because… You said the American system is wrong??? What in hell are you trying to defend??? You claimed you were defending Australia against her claims… As stated YES you were demeaning to her, call it derogatory or not, it is a simple fact. I see it as you insulting her over her electoral system and making demands on her to defend something. Ok, you think it is not meaningless drivel give it some context as to how it makes your stance on Australia’s political system. I actually don’t see anybody comparing either systems. I just see people insulting people because… well I don’t know. I see a bit of anti-American in many of your comments, perhaps you’re an American hater??? Either way, I don’t know WHY your pursuing this matter. And yes again, I am the boss, I am one of the people who is deciding the success or failure of the discussion. Trying to insult me does nothing for your cause. .
If you think i am having a go at Moi by having a go at her countries political system that is your choice, if you think its because I have a vendetta against America that's also your choice, and your opinion is clear. Grant me the same courtesy. I think your comments have nothing to do with Australia, but about MY defending it's political system. Your comments add nothing to the topic of the discussion between Moi and ME, rather than the fact that I am having it. It appears that the topic of your comments is my participation in the discussion, like I should have just shut up. You act like some king sitting on your throan bashing anyone you feel like. Well that's my opinion and you have given yours ,I don't agree with you but I agree you have the right to it. You do not have to agree with me, but please agree I have the right to have it and move on.
I know you’re having a go at Moi, As I said you attempt to insult Moi by dictating your demands. I Don’t know what your motive is, as I had previously noted I considered this to be above you, Obviously not. I am simply giving you my observation of what you are discussing. Most people don’t get that observation so you are getting a heads up. Take it or leave it. Just because you hate everything about me doesn’t mean I am wrong. I am sure many agree with your attempts at insult to school Moi in the Australian political system, after all the ALP opposition has been “your wrong because I am right”. Hope they get it better after the elections. As I stated, you are simply insulting Moi in your comment, You know it and have designed the comments to do such. This is above you. Your defence of Australian politics is not to address the points raised but to turn around and demand your understanding of US politics is better than Moi and that being the case you are right, just plain stupid. It sounds like your living in Sydney and a friend comes from Perth to visit. Standing in your back yard the friend tells you your tree is sick and perhaps you should cut it down before it falls over. You say no, you’re wrong because you have a pine tree growing in your back yard. How in hell does that show he is wrong??? You appear to be doing the same thing. I don’t care if you discuss this issue, but at least defend the points. You are representing Australia here and simply telling somebody else they are wrong because they have a different system makes you out to look like a fool, ergo others on the forum as well. But hey you don’t have to agree with me. I am simply the observer here. One of the people who decide who has bested who and who has defended their stance and who has failed. Take the hint or don’t, argue the point of who is the decider in this or not and weather your right over the people who are observing or not. It is completely up to you, just stop boring us with meaningless drivel that shows you cannot defend your own political system from somebody who clearly has very little idea of it.
that was the entire point, don't know why you think it is important to infer something else. BUT again take it or leave it.
We got through the 46.2 c day without the power going out. Thank you Jay Weatherill. Sorry to hear Victoria is undergoing power problems, it must be bloody miserable for the poor buggers.
I'm keeping a low profile- solar power and excess back into the grid. In SA you must be missing Jay W. such a forward thinking bloke.
Yes Sally although it's true that our state economy is improving it will be interesting to see if the current Liberal government is capable of sustaining the work done by the previous Labor government.
And just how much power is derived from other states to power the poor infrastructure needs of SA??? Seriously??? I don't see cutting health services, infrastructure programs and employment programs as forward thinking. Mental health cut to near non-existent levels so a state government can promote killing energy programs to such a point where they have to purchase base load peak demand from other states... The fact you want to allow such pitiful actions on state level shows how far you will allow it nationally... I certainly hope your joking. The only reason the state is growing is because industry the ALP\Greens stands against are growing. Mining and the increasing industry around it helping to save the state from bankruptcy. Honestly, the work done by ALP??? Buddy the state has survived on its corporate welfare and mining interests for decades. Since it is the largest mining state, you would image governments would have been able to bumble through some decent reforms and building for the state, not allow a federal rape of the state’s resources. I honestly don’t know how anybody can pat anybody else on the back for the position SA is in today. Because all governments have welched of the success of the very industry they proclaim to hate…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-bitten-rear-python-lurking-204133469.html Woman bitten on rear by python lurking in her toilet A woman in Australia got a rather unpleasant surprise when she sat down on her toilet and was greeted by an angry python. Richards said she initially thought it may have been a frog or a turtle until she stood up and saw that the culprit was actually a Carpet Python, a non-venomous snake commonly found throughout the continent. Does this kind of thing happen often in Australia? Got some personal experiences to share? Moi I always knew the toilet monster was real. FREE Meng Wanzhou! She has been charged and seeks extradition. What took so long? Blame ! Extradition hearing set for March 6. Arrested December 1. Some speedy trial
Snake horror stories are common in QLD where the pythons are common. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-20/queensland-family-saves-toddler-from-pythons-jaws/10400156
Australians are more likely to be killed by horses, cows and bees than snakes. You’re about as likely to be killed by a dog as by a snake in Australia — but they’re all furry-wurry and so we lose our minds over those. Many simply refuse to believe dogs kill as many people as snakes in Australia. But they do. News has just broken that Brisbane Snake Catchers is advising Australians to keep pet cats indoors, sharing a delightful picture of a python that ate a family cat whole in the city’s suburb of Wishart. Mee-ouch. The huge carpet python after it caught and ate a beloved family cat. Picture: Brisbane Snake Catchers/FacebookSource:Supplied https://www.news.com.au/technology/...e/news-story/90981b122787e3d687ab08def27852b0
@Sallyally Do they ever try retrieve the cat? Cut the snake open. They can go into near suspended animation and revive. Remember zombie cat. Owner thought it was dead after being hit by a car and buried it. It came to and appeared at the door. So do spider bite injuries/deaths outnumber all? No Personal Experiences from all you O Z's? Moi FREE Meng Wanzhou! She has been charged and seeks extradition. What took so long? Blame ! Extradition hearing set for March 6. Arrested December 1. Some speedy trial
Is it? I thought there were pythons in Asia and South America. I'm glad they aren't in my corner of Aust.
What unique biting or otherwise threatening critters you got in Victoria? Your corner. Spiders. Those big, Aussie kind. Baby stealing dingoes?
Sulphur crested cockatoos and Rainbow Lorikeets both bite. Snakes, spiders, bullants, jackjumpers, platypus( male has a poisonous spur on his hind legs).
