All Things Australia

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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you explain that you'd studied abroad!
     
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    I was a bit young to pass for an exchange student, but my folks politely explained that we spoke English in Australia. :)
     
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    It is not just the Yanks that are ignorant

    https://funnyshit.com.au/aussie_tourism.html
     
  4. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are YOU going to do about all those poor
    Indonesians and Malaysians at your door / shore ?


    Hope you manage it better than poor Italy and the Libyans.
    You Save Them, You're Stuck With Them.



     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ship with a propeller? Wow!
     
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    The anals of history
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Australia threatens :flagus:
    with the misery of others.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/australia-still-waiting-u-fulfill-082138987.html
    Australia Is Still Waiting for the U.S.
    to Fulfill Its (Obama) Pledge to Accept Refugees

    Australia’s prime minister said Friday that his country will not consider options for resettling refugees languishing on Pacific islands until the United States fulfills its promise to take up to 1,250 of them.

    More than a year after President Donald Trump reluctantly agreed to honor an Obama administration deal by resettling hundreds of refugees rejected by Australia, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told reporters that around 200 had so far found new homes in the United States.

    Australia has a policy of not allowing any refugees who try to arrive by boat
    smart, very smart to settle in the country. It pays neighboring Papua New Guinea and the tiny atoll nation of Nauru to hold around 2,000 asylum seekers from Africa, the Middle East and Asia who have attempted to reach Australian shores since 2013.

    At a meeting with New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in Sydney on Friday, Turnbull again rejected a longstanding New Zealand offer to accept 150 refugees.

    “We are focused on completing the much larger arrangements with the U.S.,” Turnbull said. “We’ll take that process through to its completion and then we can consider other options.”

    Ardern replied that: “From New Zealand’s perspective, the status quo remains, the offer remains.”

    The government fears that refugees from Nauru and the Papua New Guinea island of Manus could use New Zealand as a back door into Australia, since New Zealand citizens are free to travel to and live in Australia.

    This could undermine Australia’s message that refugees who arrive by boat will never be allowed to stay.

    Refugee Action Coalition spokesman Ian Rintoul, an Australia-based advocate, said Australia should immediately accept the New Zealand offer to end the unnecessary suffering of refugees who have spent close to five years on the impoverished islands.



    Let's all work together to build an economy
    on those impoverished islands.
    Then the refugees don't have to move :woot:


    Moi :oldman:



     
  10. Sallyally

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    Go for it moi, you first.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're closer ! ;)
     
  12. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nuh uh.
     
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    Girls stop your bickering
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    He started it.
     
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    Little Tommy and Johnny were fighting. Mum comes in and says "Stop this fighting this minute. Now who started it?". Johnny eagerly replies, "Tommy did, he hit me back."
     
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    It's been the same with kids forever. " mum, he's looking at me!"
     
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    Just be grateful YOU are not Italy nor Greece and
    forced by your benevolent neighbors to absorb boat people as "yours".

    YOU, downunders, do have an alternative.
    A humanitarian one. We discussed.
    No Obama promise required.
     
  18. Sallyally

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    It's a very complicated issue with many opinions and different perspectives.
    The countries which are hosting the refugees are being compensated and perhaps they should use the money to start up a new industry. Aquafarming for instance.
    http://www.news.com.au/national/nau...r/news-story/4c956fe40bbcddb4b390ebf5ce65d6e4
    Nauru is a poor country which didn't use the phosphate money wisely.
     
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    Sounds like someone is skimming the funds, per the article.

    Phosphate money? ?
     
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    Nauru used to be a huge heap of bird manure which was mined to make super phosphate( fertiliser and explosives). It is running out now and Nauru didn't use the money wisely. There is environmental degradation and people have stopped using their traditional skills. They don't fish any more and they have high rates of heart disease and diabetes. Little employment.
     
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    We were fooled weren't we!

    Donald Trump promised Malcolm Turnbull Australia would be exempt from trade tariffs

    On Monday morning, Mr Trump tweeted that "friends and enemies have taken advantage of the US for many years". He added that American steel and aluminium industries were "dead" and declared it was time for change.
     
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    You can't make money selling what you make to the people that make it. It doesn't make sense, until we all realise that, we will never get anywhere. Your asking the "workforce" to buy what they made for more than what they were paid to make it.
     
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    We have got away with it for centuries, getting resources for next to nothing, paying workers next to nothing, building up savings amongst the rich. Then we started having to pay workers, or pay those that weren't slaves a reasonable wage. Then we abolished slavery so we sent our slavery off shore to countries that treated their workers like we used to treat ours. Then our cheap/free resources came to an end as the countries we raped started demanding compensation for the resources and environmental damage.

    We were screwed, it was now costing us more to make it then what we were paying those that were buying it. So we invent wealth to "top up" the system. We make homes and property a commodity, artificially jack up the prices and gain a pool of money for nothing amongst the workers which we can get by charging more for goods and services than what we pay the consumers for making it drawing on this "make believe" capital growth, but as you get "nothing for nothing" that didn't last long. So now we give credit to the workers to buy the goods and services for more than what we pay them for making it. The money from the credit goes to the rich and the debt to the workers. One day we are going to have to pay.
     
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    Now Trump and others think they can still get some resources cheap, and spend millions manipulating the countries from which they steal resources, starting and fighting wars to keep the people repressed so we can get the cheap/free resources. But wars are getting expensive and other players like Russia and China are entering the Capitalism game and the whole pyramid is collapsing around us.

    Those on the bottom, the workers will get crushed while those further up the pyramid will survive.

    They know this constantly hiding the truth from us through manipulating interest rates and the market.

    Those with wealth inherited from the "good old days" will survive while the workers will again be slaves now to the debt they are in.
     
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    Balancing the balance of trade is tricky. We have relied on resources and raw products forever. We should have been R&D'ing rather than relying on exports of minerals.
     
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