The All Things Turkey thread. Inclusive but not limited to current events, news, politics, history, culture, peoples, famous persons, the grand ole days of the Ottoman Empire, religions, etc. etc. Some years ago I was e-mailing with a Turkish man in Istanbul. He was some sort of company executive who got a fancy company car. As a child he went to a private school in Istanbul where the children of Embassy officials often attended. Spoke several language and seemed to enjoy some vacations here and there. My question to him then was, how much longer could Turkey remain a big, empty place on the map. I mean one would look at a map, see Turkey but nothing much was happening. He said that's the way the Turkish people liked it. I said it wouldn't last much longer and, voila - Turkey is on the map. What happened? Why did they change from a nation involved with their own internal affairs to one with more preoccupation with the world around? Ideas? Offer up other topics. Moi r > g Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
I was born in June, 1948. That doesn't change as my age does. So we gonna talk turkey now? :lol Bring up a new topic or discuss how / why Turkey is no longer the big empty space on the map we got use to. Never heard a word about Turkey on the news until the last few years.
The last time I checked that's what we were supposed to do but I don't quite get what that "empty space on the map" mean. Not a usual way of describing "political" changes in "English" language. Where are you from anyways? Praising Jeanette every once in a while, volunteered to discuss somethings about my nation's founding father? What's your deal Melisandre? Huh? Minerva? lol... Regards; GEOPOLITIK
Thank you. Big Empty Space is my term. First, I have always liked the back, dark corners of history ignored by the standard history taught in America. The Vikings. The Ottoman Empire and Turkey too. Louis Riel. The Barbarians that invaded Rome. I wondered how a nation as large as Turkey escaped being in the News. And I discussed it with the Turk I mentioned to you. An executive with a car from his employer, the old family summer home when not in Istanbul, and sent to the private school in Istanbul where Ambassadors sent their children. He said he was a member of the Political Party that previously represented Ataturk and also said, Turkey liked managing its' own affairs and not being involved with others. So I studied as I could and hope to understand Turkey better. I told "Hakan" that Turkey could not remain "a big empty space", and he hoped it would - meaning stay out of affairs outside of Turkey. He liked Turkey being a more self sufficient nation. Food, industry, etc. So the Turkey we all knew seems to have changed. It is now a leader in M.E. affairs. I hope that answers your question. Consider most Americans probably do not recognize the Turkic people separate from Arab. I do my best to understand the Muslim - lite, wine loving people of Turkey. What I would like to understand better is the transition from the Ottoman Empire to Turkey. The replacement of the Sultan with "The Young Turks". Enver Pasha sounds like an interesting person. What happened to pan Turkism? A union of sorts from Turkey - Azerbaijan - the 'stans. Have you checked my profile? I bio. some stuff there on myself. American born. Southern California coast after Hollywood. No religion. Third generation assimilated Jewish. My grandparents on both sides left religion circa 1900. I hope that answers your questions. Feel free to message me. I also hope you will contribute more to my understanding of all things Turkey. Best Wishes Moi PS You don't have to hold to my chosen topics on Turkey, feel free to offer up some of your own. This song was written in retaliation to those who objected to the name change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_(Not_Constantinople)
Southern Californian man, a native speaker of English language, loaded with deep knowledge about history and politics, familiar with my region and stuff... even with me... Spells Geopolitics as not Geopolitix, not Geopolitic, not Geopolics, not even Geopolitv but "GEOPOLITIK" Regards; HAKAN !
Anyone can learn something, almost - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geopolitik That's Geopolitik, g-e-o-p-o-l-i-t-i-k. Shall we talk Turkey now? Moi r > g Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
We were born and raised in America, we live in America, we speak English, that's our native... But we use ""GERMAN FORM"" of a very well known political term and try making some sense out of it by showing a Wikipedia link. I got one here too: https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geopolitik What's that? Indonesian? Really? Yes, let's talk """ABOUT""" Turkiye now. Regards, Hakan.
Thank you. Let's talk about Turkey now. Could you help me understand how "The Young Turks" got control from the Sultan. And Enver Pasha too. He sounds like a charismatic person and a believer in uniting the Turkic peoples. Pan Turkism. Why Hakan? Does it mean something I am missing?
Hi. How are you? I hope you're doing well. I thought we would be talking about Turkiye Cumhuriyeti, not Ottoman Empire. However, since you asked, I believe there are certainly some credible sources that can give you an idea of that subject. Next please...
Sources yes. Probably credible too. But, not with the point of view of one from the region. Please, will you share your knowledge of how power came to the "Young Turks" without a bloody revolution. And Enver Pasha too. Thank You.
