Allan Savory: Hope for Reversing Desertification and Climate Change - What You Can Do

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    My point was that's not necessary true. Droughts by their very nature are long term and long term all soil dries out.
     
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    Do you have a point here? Alabama pulpwood relates to big timber in the west how?
     
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    The only problem I have with mob grazing is parasite issues. It seems to me that having manure concentrated in a smaller area....more poop per square foot...means a higher concentration of worms, flukes, etc. So. ...how does that work out in practice?
     
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    Follow with the egg mobile and the hens scratch through the patties foraging on the fly larvae and spreading the manure and fertilizing it with their own. Then follow them later on with broilers and turkeys, followed even later by rabbits and even hogs at some point. That is truly mimicking nature.

     
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    The only problem with this is that most ranchers don't raise chickens or want to. I have a small spot that was eaten bare by chickens. No green at all. I moved the chickens and planted grass seed. But it isn't feasable to run chickens over all my pasture. Since we get our best rains in the winter months I usually let my animals graze the land down and plant my ryegrass in October thru February. I have 5 pastures blocked off and my goats are on one pasture at a time. I rotate pastures but this time of year I usually leave them on one pasture and feed them hay. This gives time for the other pastures time to grow up and green up for spring . This gives me bright green pastures about the time the baby goats are weaned. The summer months the goats move quite often. Every system has its variables.
     
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    Well, the key is that the system is intended to be adaptive to environmental factors. So you may move your cattle every 3-4 days when someone else may move them 3-4 times a day. The answer to your question is right there. You move the cattle when the paddock is done. You don't want them mowing the grasses too short and over fertilizing the paddock, so you move them more frequently. You just have to figure out a good way to judge it. You also have to let the grass and soil recover to the correct stage before bringing the cattle back. So frequent moving with long periods of recovery between brief periods of grazing.
     

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