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Alleged “Right-wing” Militia Member Arrested for Plot Against Gov. Whitmer Was Black Lives Matter Pr

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    First we discover that one of the Alt-Right thugs was actually a radical leftist anarchist with video to prove it and now we discover that another Alt-Right thug was actually a BLM marcher and sympathizer.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...mer-black-lives-matter-protester-sympathizer/

    “One of alleged plotters, 23-year-old Daniel Harris, attended a Black Lives Matter protest in June, telling the Oakland County Times he was upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence.”

    So is it possible that the leftist loyal media outlets no longer even know how to do any real investigations before leaping forward to boldly lie to the nation for the political benefit of the DNC?
     
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    Yeah, no great surprise there, not much has changed in radical crazy town since the 60's. The only difference is there was some legitimate media then and a few real journalists.
     
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    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Notice that it takes nearly no time at all nowadays to bust a Dem Party generated scheme against Trump -- or against the GOP in general -- because the actual facts are so very easy to discover? I think it's because people realize that they have to become their own investigative reporters because nobody aside from inveterate Kool-Aid drinkers are inclined to BELIEVE the Mainstream Media any more when it comes to any aspect of politics.
     
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    I hear he's right handed too. You know who else is right handed? 80% of evil Democrats! And Hitler!
     
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    Yep, you've put the FBI and Michigan state police to shame here. Please, Gatewood. Anybody can search for anything on anybody else and create fiction out of nothing. I'll trust LE, thank you. You don't trust the police?
     
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    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    What was the number again? Six or eight involved in this and two of whom have now been identified at some form or the other of radical leftist? Just how many more need to be labelled thus before the Left decides that perhaps that wasn't Alt-Right White Supremacy guys after all?
     
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    Nobody is saying they're white supremacists.

    A flag (What was the flag on the right? Until you can answer that question, the flag "controversy" is off the table.) and attending a protest prove nothing. They're meaningless blurbs being twisted into disinformation to distract from the fact it was Trump who said "stand back, stand by," and it was Trump who said "liberate Michigan." It distracts from the fact the Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf is associated with at least one man in the group. Look at all these leftists:

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    They're militia. They're extreme. Trying to paint them as anything other than that is a desperate attempt at distracting from Trump.
     
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    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Could it be possible that the Right/Left labels are meaningless in this case? It seems these guys don't fit either. Some are calling them Libertarians. My thoughts--these are Wannabe-boys, not actual militia in any way other than as a way to call attention to themselves. I don't think the more "legitimate" militias wanted anything to do with these guys.

    "Anarchist" is a good label for their actions, but they refer to themselves as patriots. The thing that seems to challenge our labeling system is that they fit into all these different categories. We have a group that identifies as patriots, as militia, and appears to have wanted to kidnap a Democratic governor who supported Biden, marched with BLM protestors, and called for enforcement of rules for masks and social distancing. Garbin, the leader, seems to have been all about some imagined glory or fame.

    But this is all top-notch fuel for political fires.
     
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    I would agree except that both the FBI -- which has got a scetchy past where campaigns and Trump is concerned -- and Governor Whitmer brought up the Right and Whitmer blamed it on Trump. So now that politics IS in it, let's go with spreading the full truth around a bit . . . in that at least two of the people were definitely anything but affiliated with the Right.
     
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    The militia movements have long been associated with the Right. The Libertarian militias were considered as Right-leaning, but it's obvious now that some of these groups are more anarchist than Right or Left.

    IMO, the thing that's most important in this is that media sources intentionally and unintentionally offer biased narratives about such stuff. We have to stop taking a binary approach to the media--stop seeing them as good sources and bad sources. They exist because every click offers up data for them to sell. Truth? Facts? Not any more.
     
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    It was Trump who said stand back, stand by and liberate Michigan. As with everything else, Trump brought this on himself. He'll never learn, and his supporters can keep trying to minimize the impact of his words, but nobody is buying it.
     
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    Anarchists seems a better description than any other of the ideologies mentioned, but that's not how it's been reported in the MSM. It's too close to an election for that.
     
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    Better, but not a universal fit. There are many articles out there in the last few days that paint a picture of Left wing anarchists, and Right wing anarchists, depending on the source. The members of the group seem to consider themselves Libertarians. I can't remember the source, but one article talked about how other militias were responding to the incident, and how they thought the leader was just out to make a name for himself.

    I don't know these folks, I was not part of the events in any way, and I can't say with any certainty what the truth is. All I can do is look at it from different perspectives and accept what I believe is most accurate. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
     
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    Funny how the left jumps unjustified on this. They musn't forget....it was the "systematically racist system" that uncovered this hair brain plot against the Leftist/Marxist Governor.
     
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    You may not like this......but there ARE Patriotic Americans ready to enforce our Constitution when your leftist ideas try and overturn it. However, that was not the case in this instance and the Governor was correct in pointing that out calling them "domestic terrorists" instead of militia.
     
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    Just more RUSSIAN propaganda from GP.
     
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    For all that I don't care for Libertarians, I don't see a Libertarian militia plotting a terrorist kidnapping. Anarchists on the other hand...
     
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    The extreme nature of the activity doesn't preclude a libertarian philosophy. Anarchists are loosely organized at best. These are organized militia groups, and they appear to have the backing of a local county sheriff. Their philosophy is based on their interpretation of law, and they are anti-government once you get past the "sovereign county sheriff." We've seen this movie before. They're not anarchists, and they're not libertarians. They're disturbed, just like the Bundy family.
     
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    they wore don't tread on us symbols and said Trump was a great president - give me a break
     
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    Yessssssss . . . because leftist anarchists and rage-filled BLM marchers ALWAYS say that they adore Trump.
     
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    Thanks for proving what we already knew. That Alt-Right members attended BLM protest to stir up trouble. Now we have proof. Thanks
     
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    Thety are what Kyle Rittenhouse's grow up to be psychos.
     
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    The anti-government people are against all government full stop. They don't support either political side. The only thing they support is chaos.
     
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    When this story first broke, we were told they were alt-right Trump supporters, so it seems that the story on their specific ideology has shifted a bit. I'll be surprised if these do turn out to be any sort of libertarian, but anarchists (at least for right now) seem a better fit. Who's more anti government than them?
     
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    that is the point, these were not BLM - they were far right wing tea partiers
     
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