Almost-forgotten history of Diaoyu

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  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    ‘It’s quite simple, Dimitris, if you stop claiming Greece is Greek, if you surrender the Aegean to us, then we won’t go to war with you and take your territory by force. Can’t you see this hang up you have with sovereignty is out of date and your interests are best served if you recognise the power and authority of Turkey? Resistance is futile. Please see reason. If you become subservient to us, then there will be no limits to the friendship we can build between Turkey and the Rum millet.’

    Comrade, the above excerpts were taken from the article entitled "Turkey urges Greece to drop claims to Greece" at http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.sg/2010/09/turkey-urges-greece-to-drop-claims-to.html

    That is essentially what Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu said would prompt Turkey to remove Turkey's casus belli against Greece.

    So Greece's claims on the disputed Aegean Sea territory would also remind you of the church "claiming lands presenting signatures by Byzantine emperors"?

    There is a parallel between the Turkish-Greek Aegean Sea dispute and the Japan-Sino East China Sea dispute. Will you urge your country to give up its claims on the Aegean Sea territory?

    Turkey asks Greece to drop claim on Aegean
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/de...om-its-national-8220enemy8221-list-2010-08-31
     
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    hydrogen bomb doesnt care if it burns 20 million chinese or 5 chinese. Numbers are irrelevant in that game. The numbers were same as we crushed them last time.
     
  4. Akuma

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    lol you get laughable now. you compare the 3 rd largest economy with a 3 rd world country. How retarded do you try to look exactly?

    It is important for Japan to industrialize any war against such pathetic countries. See the enym people as vermin, extinct them with superior technology and move on, thats our tactics in war.
     
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    But you didn't crush them. China was not defeated by the Japanese in the Second World War. Japan lost....remember.

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    Japan has no nuclear weapons and no means to deliver them if they did.
     
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    And no, Japan could not build nuclear weapons within a few months. Developing nuclear weapons is not the same thing as building a Toyota.
     
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    You seem completely unaware of the fact that Japanese military strategists have built a force that is designed to operate in conjunction with US forces.
     
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    Nonsense , i say let the islanders decide .
    Ever wonder why Cyprus is not part of Greece? it is because islanders decided they didn't want to.
     
  12. Akuma

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    lol what do you think are all our fancy space rockets for? ;) I give you a hint, delivering large objects into space and reentry. its dual use.
     
  13. Akuma

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    apparantly, we can...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_latency

    we are a leading science country. Nuclear bombs are a primitive weapon. We can do that since 1960th. go back too school. Btw a new toyota hybrid car is more technological challenging than a nuke.
     
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    Your little article says nothing about making nuclear weapons in a few months.

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    Your ignorance of technology is astounding.
     
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    Sounds like a Japanese Tea Party.
     
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    Your idiocy is astounding to believe that Japan, the elading nation in science, which landed Hayabusa on asteroids. Which builds fastest trains, developed hydromagnet propulsion is unable to build such a pathetic and outdated device as a nucöear bomb.

    Japan owns 650 tons plutonium. Japan has the delivery system and we have the technology.

    http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/japan/nuke/

    "During the Sato cabinet in the 1960's, it is reported that Japan secretly studied the development of nuclear weapons. On June 17, 1974, Japanese Prime Minister Tsutomu Hata told reporters that "it's certainly the case that Japan has the capability to possess nuclear weapons but has not made them." This remark aroused widespread concern in the international media at that time.
    Japan's nuclear power program based on reprocessed plutonium has aroused widespread suspicion that Japan is secretly planning to develop nuclear weapons. Japan's nuclear technology and ambiguous nuclear inclinations have provided a considerable nuclear potential, becoming a "paranuclear state." Japan would not have material or technological difficulties in making nuclear weapons. Japan has the raw materials, technology, and capital for developing nuclear weapons. Japan could possibly produce functional nuclear weapons in as little as a year's time. On the strength of its nuclear industry, and its stockpile of weapons-useable plutonium, Japan in some respects considers itself, and is treated by others as, as a virtual nuclear weapons state."


    Japan is the only nation that signed the "non proliferation" contract that is allowed to produce such gigantic amounts of Plutonium as well as high enriched Uranium.

    But i think we would not need nuclear weapons to destroy China. It is easy to strike them inside with conventional ways. Bomrad their Yangtze dam as well as the yellow river dieks and you reduce their population by 1/3 within hours. Biological and chemical weapons would also be useful. On the same side we can depend on our defense umbrella. Japan knows evrything in China. We look at them from space as well as radar stations all over Japan which cover all of east asia.

    We shouldn´t forget one thing, China belongs to us. It just happenes to be inhabitated from "weird people" who have no connection to those lands. They lost the mandate of heaven a long time ago. They are mixed in a horrible way...

    fact is, the old chinese did look like we do. The China of Qin...The China of Tang...was like we are.

    China today is mixed...with manchu and mongols and so on. They have no worth.

    As for me not representing Japanese people. I represent myself. And i´m considered moderate. Influential politicians like Ishihara...formerly governor of Tokyo and now member in our Diet...calls foreigners animals. I would not go that far.
     
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    Where will Japan test this new weapon? And what do you suppose the Chinese will be doing while you're making aggressive gestures?
     
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    Such a weapon must not be tested. It is a primitive design. You know that it works. There is nothing experimental about it.

    And why should we make aggressive gestures? Such things are done behind the curtain. Japan seeks no war with China. But we are ready to strike. Thats the important message.

    And if China pushs too far, we will attack. China knows that. Just few weeks ago they did send a secret diplomatic mission to Japan to negotiate. It is funny since the official stand of their regime is that there is nothing to negotiate.

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/secret-japan-china-talks-held-over-island-dispute

    China (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up with Senkaku and knows that.
     
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    If Japan starts to build nuclear weapons China will know about it. What would prevent them from taking preemptive action?
     
  20. Akuma

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    They won´t know. The difference is, and China admits that, they have almost no acess to the inenr japanese power circle. While Japan has full acess to theirs. Thats the advancement of being a monolithic society.

    Your own comedy shows that ;)

    [video=youtube;EmUIV0nG6Fg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmUIV0nG6Fg[/video]
     
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    so basically you didn't learn your wwii lesson and want to mass murder hundreds million by blow up the 3-gorgage dam etc etc. i doubt japan has the ability to do that, since the dam is interior of china. even US would have issue to reach that area unharmed. if if you do, it will give china perfect excuse to nuke entire japan, and no one will blame china for it. you are obivious a ultra-nationlist jap, who probability think japan atrocity in WWII is false too.

    and you keep talking about they have no worth etc etc, just remind ppl that you act the same as nazi or pre-wwii japan, think its superior to everyone. but in reality you are just a puppet state under our influence, the good old USA.

    i remember i read news somewhere when japan want to use illumination round against chinese plane fly over the dispute area during the tense situation a yr back, but a quick no from US government stop that :)
     
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    you think us government will allow japan to build nuke now lol. read you consititution. i do agree japan has the ability to make nuclear weapon, but its not something can achieve within a yr or two.
     
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    Chinese have no worth to exist when they step in our way. Thats an biological imperative.

    And of course we can hit their dam. How you think we launch satellites into space? With rockets.
     
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    lol, right, go for it, see what the retailation would be, just don't ask us to protect your ass. japan has no ICBM/IRBM capable to destroy dam several thousands km away. there is a fundamental difference between satelite rocket vs ICBM. the guidance has vast difference.

    and now you just babbling like nazi, thinking you are the superior race etc etc.

    oh btw put your purposal to US government, saying you want to build a ICBM to destroy china 3-gorgages dam, and kill millions downstream, and see what our government reaction would be. like i said read your consitiution, it forbid japan has any offensive weapon, that including ICBM.
     
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    of course im superior race. We are pure blood. They are mongrels, mixed with evry backwarded asian people possible...mongol...manchu and what else.

    And of course we can destroy that dam. We are Japan. You forgot? We find technological solutions for evry problem. :)
     

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