Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Actually it is higher than that almost perfect
    "Women take the pill by mouth to prevent pregnancy, and, when taken correctly, it is up to 99.9% "
    https://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/birth-control-pills
    And refrain from sex during the period where the woman is most fertile.........


    If the poster to whom I was responding gets to lump all pro-lifers together and assign a minority opinion I get to do the same for the pro-abortion side.
     
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    Up to is the key words here. Sources I can find vary from up to 99% to up to 99.9%. That still means 1 in 100 to 1000. That’s still a lot of unplanned births — likely unwanted which increases the instance of child neglect or abuse born into unwed single parent homes.

    Do you believe the morning after pill should be banned? If no, what point should the woman go to prison for murder for termination of her pregnancy?

    Be better than that. I really feel that’s the reason our nation is dangerously divided — everyone justifies their actions, statements and their political representation by saying “they do it”. It’s a race to the bottom.
     
  3. freakonature

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    Divorce doesn't create single parents unless the court says so. Why am i not surprised you brought up another highly unlikely situation.
     
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    You left out unprotected or under protected sex with someone you don't have a strong relationship. My guess, that's the vast majority. No wonder you're completely lost on this subject.
     
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    then not getting married doesn't cause single parents by your logic, so the thread is a fail either way
     
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    Why are you trying do hard to avoid discussing the vast majority of single parent cases where the mother is left with a child due to dumb decisions by both parents?
     
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    And this is where you first got the information from?
     
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    That's my point, its all guesswork for you. You don't actually have any raw data on the matter, at least you haven't provided any.
     
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    That was a turn of phrase
     
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    But it is guesswork right?
     
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    No. Almost all single parents come from never together parents.
     
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    Your contradicting your own silly logic. AND like I said, the governments purpose is reducing procreation outside of marriage. And neither one of us wanted to reproduce at the time.
     
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    And those born into homes with their biological mother and father do better than alternative two parent households such as a step parent.
     
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    And where is the data for that?
     
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    You do realise that 73.7% of the country calls themselves a Christian, right?
     
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    And where is the data for that?
     
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    Yes, I assumed that it was on a per capita basis. I assumed that you were too honest to mention such a stat. It didn't prove anything!
     
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    The thread tittle is almost half of us births happen outside of marriage. You don't have to be Columbo to figure this out.
     
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    So no data then for your claim. You could've just said that.
     
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    I posted the facts, the reality is, most Americans getting Abortions are indeed Christians
     
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    You could have just said that you didn't want to discuss personal responsibility a while back.
     
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    Personal responsibility is ABSOLUTELY important, but its not the subject of this thread.
     
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    Sure, but you realise that 73% of the country is Christian don't you? So what does it prove that most Americans getting Abortions are Christians?
     
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    I realize it, the ones trying to dispute that fact must not realize it, the reality is, it is just common sense
     
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    Who is trying to dispute it?
     

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