I would be over the moon if that pathalogical lying piece of crap Gillard loses her seat....apart from that, this two party scam has to end for the sake of Australia. Unless we Aussies find a way to introduce a citizen initiated referendum system in this country then we will always end up with sold out puppets who's allegiance lies with foreign banker scumbags!
Listen to the pathalogical liar....she is now blaming everyone and everything to what she and her string pullers have done. This retard is going to go down as the worst PM ever....and unfortunately we as tax payers are going to be paying this total idiot with pensions, air travel etc for the rest of her disgusting sold out life.....man if we had CIR we could have sacked this moron in the first year of her bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! _____ Julia Gillard accuses own MPs of trying to destroy her, leaking to media JULIA Gillard has accused her own MPs of trying to destroy her Government from within as she addressed a shattered caucus ahead of the resumption of Parliament tomorrow. A source inside the caucus told The Daily Telegraph that the PM said she was aware that MPs had been leaking to journalists with the intention of backgrounding against the Government. Backgrounding is where politicians provide sensitive information to journalists under the assumption they will not be named. In a clear sign that Ms Gillard and her backers are concerned about another challenge being mounted against her leadership, the PM said that marginal seat MPs would be the only ones to suffer from the continuous leaking. While talk of Kevin Rudd has been revived following today’s disastrous poll results, the former PM was a noticeable absence from the meeting. Mr Rudd was said to be unwell. The caucus met at 2pm today in Parliament. Ms Gillard then claimed that the source for her claim of backgrounding MPs was a journalist. The caucus also elected Communications Minister Stephen Conroy as the new Senate leader to replace Chris Evans, who rocked the Government on Friday night when he stepped down from Cabinet, along with Attorney General Nicola Roxon. A caucus spokesman said Ms Gillard's remarks had been "implicit" and had not referred to individuals. "She referred to media that had said to her a range of negative comments, or people with negative comments, were waiting for them when they came back from leave." Caucus had been shaken by the messy start to the year, which included a row over the selection of Nova Peris as a Senate candidate, a shock announcement of the election date, and two cabinet ministers announcing they would quit at the election. "We need to make sure we're all united," Ms Gillard was quoted as saying. In an evaluation of Ms Gillard's remarks today, one unimpressed Labor MP who did want to be named said: "It's everyone else's fault." http://www.news.com.au/national/pm-...-to-destroy-govt/story-fncynjr2-1226570172009
So everybody has to be united under her, bit like a monarchy where the queen makes all the decisions and her people only find out when she tells them. I thought this was a government that consults with everybody. Apparently it is only when Gillard wants to let them know what they are told to do. Sounds like the peasants are revolting in more ways than one. Her party is in a shambles and looking like it will collapse pretty quickly. Too many decision made without consultation with the rest of the party, perhaps they would like to be heard on matters that affect their electorates. It is hard to tell your constituents that you have their best interests at heart when you do not even know what your own PM is going to do next.
Absolutely spot on Garry..... it was only a few months ago that what you just said was pretty much confirmed that the Gillard moron had exactly this in mind with the elected members of her party! (who the hell does that clown think she is....and we are going to be paying her for the rest of her life after she is fired?) What a freakin circus she made of Australian politics! ___ Australian Minister Agrees with What the Prime Minister Said Despite Having No Idea What the Prime Minister Said The Honourable Bill Shorten, Australia's Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, doesn't need to know what Prime Minister Julia Gillard said in order to agree with her wholeheartedly. That's what Sky News Australia political editor David Speers learned when he asked the MP if he thought Peter Slipper should be allowed to resume his role as Speaker while his sexual harassment case remains pending. Referencing remarks made by Gillard in Turkey, Shorten replied "I haven't seen what she's said, but let me say I support what it is she said." "Hang on, you haven't seen what she said?" a stupefied Speers immediately shot back. "But I support what my Prime Minister said," reiterated nonchalantly. This went back and forth for a bit before Speers called out Shorten one last time for supporting comments he hadn't heard or read. "I'm sure she's right," Shorten said. For the record, Gillard told reporters she believes Slipper should be reinstated in accordance with "a clear set of precedents where people have continued to function in their office while the subjects of civil matters." http://gawker.com/5905748/australia...e-having-no-idea-what-the-prime-minister-said
Dont know if or how it can happen, but I wouldnt be surprised to see support for Bob Carr to take over this shambles of a Government...as to whether thats an election winning move I dont know... If its necessary for Gillard to lecture her front bench like little school kids on the subject of policy leaks then this Government is running scared...roll on election...it will be a wipeout...just like Anna Bligh and Qld.......
she will lead them all the way. Rudd has no numbers. He will pick up the pieces as opposition leader. Carr is too scary on the eye. He would lean in to kiss a baby and scare it to death, or worse still turn it to stone !! The thing is these polls are not the one that counts. How many times have we seen Labor voters say they want their own party gone then arrive at the booths and get all nervous and cross the ALP box ? You only have to look at the last election, they were behind in the polls all year, only to draw even in the end. Even psychologists seek psychiatric help after dealing with a Labor tragic. They have no ryme nor reason. Just plain stubborn stupid !
Can`t argue with you there Slippery. The unions have a lot of power over their sheeple`s minds though, they seem to be able ti dictate what their members think, and how they vote.
All Big Tony has to do is get on TV and say, "when John Howard was prime minister we never had all these fires and floods. We need another Liberal government to give us a break from all these disasters". The Labor/Green sheeple will believe it and vote Liberal.
maybe not enough if the media have their way, don't forget, the media works on ratings, not the truth. Now the coalition is trying to be an alternative government, maybe if they had done that before I would like them, but once again, Australian people are not their goal, it is to get elected, but what then, God help us all - - - Updated - - - and Queenslanders are so happy now with a coalition government
So its the media's fault that the ALP cant implement a good policy? Its the medias fault that folks died in the pink batt scam? Its the medias fault that the ALP is full of crims? Nice one Dom, wake up bro.
The ALP will lose for sure but it won't be as bad as the polling is suggesting because this campaign will be be state to state more than national. Labor will be helped in Queensland and Victoria (particularly QLD) because the state coalition government is unpopular. We saw this in 2010 with Queensland and New South Wales swinging against Labor heavily and we should see it again. This will make sure that the Liberal victory is not as profound as it would have been otherwise.
Mate Queensland is cold, stony broke, kaput, finito...courtesy of Bligh/Beattie, and Newman is taking Austerity measures...you know, like they're doing in Greece...but calling them job cuts, etc... Qld is rooted and will be for years...courtesy of incompetent governments...oohh and plus a cyclone or two and a flood or two... Honestly, I wouldnt (*)(*)(*)(*) on a politician if he/she was on fire.....
Australian States in a financial mess, and the country in a financial mess - does this really surprise anyone, considering politicians are the first to sell off assets, because they are too incompetent and lazy to manage them correctly? One day really soon, the people will finally get their heads our of the sand and realise that the reason why politicians always scream there isnt enough money for this & that, is because they are incompetent managers. 99% of these clowns are solicitors/lawyers, so who, and what business takes their tax returns to a solicitor/lawyer during tax time to complete, and not their accountant? LOL LOL People are so incredibly stupid; its like getting your hairdresser to do your tax returns for you instead of your accountant. LOL LOL We get rid of politicians and their wasteful spending, this country would be paved in gold within 20 years.
Beatie & Bligh ran this state into the ground during our most prosperous period. Rudd & Gillard have done the same thing on a federal level, we expect no better from the ALP. Let me put it to you this way. If you had a small business that for some reason you had to put under management. When selecting a manager for your business, would you choose someone completely lacking in business experience? When it comes to running the biggest business in the country, the ALP / unions are the worst people for the job.
It's funny how things are conveniently forgotten such as the wheat for weapons scandal, the children overboard, travel rorts by government ministers and the prime ministers brothers company bail out in the millions, coming from tax payers dollars. Hardly a whisper on these issues and no mounted pressure. Do we need to go on and on.................okay, how about the ten or so ministers under howards government who resigned or were sacked because of fraudulent activities, not to mention other ministers he kept despite their dodgy demeanours. The media didn't chase that home like a starving pack of wolves as they do with every little issue to do with the current government. Should we go on?.......... How about the mother of all, which howard and his cronies were let off lightly over.Something so immoral to the core that it left an utterly foul stench the world over but here in Australia............. the war in Iraq!! Take the sawmill out of your own eye before you try to take the splinter out of others, I say.
Magoo, I think the libs paint a negative picture to position themselves despite their failings in the past as a party. The libs only started these shenanigans under Howard, who falsely convinced people what an economic wonder he was. Queensland doesn't look too bad at all despite the over extreme remarks from Newman and his merry men. If you repeat something enough, people start to believe you, and the libs are great at this type of politicking.
Both sides of politics are far from perfect and to act like one side is cleaner than the other is just stupid. Labor have bad apples and so do The Liberals.
Gillard is running a 38% approval rating, Abbott a 29% one. Yet we still vote for these clowns as the lesser of two evils. To put that into perspective George W. Bush left office with an approval of 34%. Consider that for a moment. There's something seriously wrong with our voting system.
I agree, but I dont go back in time to dig up dirt...might as well go back 50/60 years and make comparisons to every Parliament we ever had.,, TV also seems to be the only pro Mundine poster on here...maybe he's just plain argumentative...Politicians get away with blue murder...always have..always will..and nothing will change, as a politician would have to change it...and how many of them would vote in less perks, and vote for more transparency.... Ill tell you mate...bloody nil....thats how many...nil... What we need is a politicians ombudsman...not one to take petty complaints, one with real power....and the chance of that happening is about as great as me rooting Liz Hurley...which is nil...and in any case...the ombudsman would be in someones pocket anyway.... Australian is screwed whilst we have incompetent politicians in government and in opposition, and all of them are prepared to cowtail to the UN.... Ill give you an example of blatant dishonesty... Recently the Newman Government axed about 250 senior Police positions under the pretence that they were getting redundancies and that the Government would then employ 250 new recruits to take their place.... Guess what....what happens is this...the Police Service lose all the experience that these officers take with them and the 250 new recruits will resign when they get their 1st/2nd posting to whoopwhoop....result less staff...less salary to pay Police and the final result is that at present 80% of Qld Police have less than 5 years experience... What a con......an absolute bloody con by a deceitful, lying Government.... There all the bloody same mate...rotten as eggs and could lie straight in bed....
I'm not one of the clones, I don't like looking at things from just one perspective and certainly don't like looking at media and gossip perspectives. I like to take in the whole picture and not just ones that are popular or seem right on the surface. This forum is an example of the whinging whining title Australia is taking from the poms. Most people are whingers on this site I'm sorry to say magoo, and I start to wonder whether it is because it is their only outlet to feel powerful and strong and all knowing.
Due to our stupid Parliamentary system all MPs must be completely deferential to their leader or risk exclusion from the party and thus political death. This is nothing new.
Yep this party system where a leader acts like a dictator and the only time they are removed is when the bankers say so has become so out of control corrupt now that it is just silly voting for a party when it is only one sold out scum bag that rules the roost....there is only one system that works, and that is Citizen Initiated Referendum system where we the people can fire these pathalogical lying rats that call themselves politicians when they try to screw us and our country....until that is put in place then expect a lot more of pathalogical liars like Gillard telling us what to do....why would we ever want that ever again? Way past time to change the system and get the scum politicians to only do what we THE PEOPLE tell them to do by Referendum. How anyone could say that this is a bad idea is a paid puppet!
Ehh. Seems like it'd to the trick, but it also creates the problem of PMs being too easy to boot out. Politicians are generally crap and approval can drop rather fast. Who would replace them? The opposition leader? I'd prefer a system where if a double majority of the people (majority of all, majority of state populations) decide that an election is required it is held within a set period in the future (like... not more than 2 months from the passing of the referendum for example). This would fix a lot. Is this what you're advocating? If so good on you I do however think that the system itself needs examination. The states mean legitimately nothing these days. A system without clear constitutional guarantees of state sovereignty and something similar to the 10th amendment (but actually adhered to) leads to the Federal government having near all effective taxation and legislative power. Australia is far too centralized. Competition is good, even among governments. Let the states compete in the same way that individuals compete in the open market and the best practices will be adopted by all. Also - an executive within the legislature creates all sorts of issues. The Parliament is basically run by one person: the PM. The PM is in effect a Monarch with constitutional restrictions. Mixing executive and legislative functions creates chaos and corruption. We should move to a decentralized Federal system wherein the Federal government acts as an intermediary in interstate/international matters, but does not interfere in their internal affairs. Thanks
