America has No Allies in a War with Iran!

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    There are plenty of other threads about the IMPOTUS's illegal action in Iraq killing the top Iranian general but none of them are dealing with the SITUATION that the IMPOTUS is FORCING us into.

    From the outset the IMPOTUS has nefariously driven a WEDGE between us and our western allies.

    The IMPOTUS ALIENATED all of the other EU nations involved in the Obama Iranian peace accord when he ARBITRARILY pulled out of it.

    Iran is allied with Russia and China!

    The IMPOTUS has started a Tariff War with China that we are LOSING!

    When Iran RETALIATES for the murder of their general the incompetent IMPOTUS is going to declare a state of emergency and mobilize the military without Congress's approval.

    The nation is NOT UNITED behind him and our allies will NOT join the IMPOTUS in his reckless warmongering.

    Russia and China will provide Iran with ALL of the military aid and assistance they need!

    Sun Tzu wrote his book about avoiding this kind of stupidity!

    The IMPOTUS doesn't read...or listen...or think...he just EMOTES and REACTS on his emotions!

    He MUST be REMOVED from office ASAP BEFORE we find ourselves in HIS WAR that we cannot win alone!

    Our finest are going to die because of his arrogance and stupidity and our nation will be bankrupted if we do not stop him NOW!

    This is serious and DEADLY!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, but Israel is as happy as a clam. Finally their efforts to have the US attack Iran has borne fruit.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Needless to say Israel won't lift a finger to help us just as it has failed to do so when it came to the Gulf War, the illegal invasion of Iraq and the Syrian conflict.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Having Americans die for Israeli causes is part of the plan it seems.
     
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    The USA has few allies, period. And if we were to stop foreign aid we would have not a single ally. The sooner we get out of the Mid East the better. Let the neighbors over there settle the problems or keep fighting and killing for another one thousand years.
     
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    You should be celebrating the death of the general. It’s accepted globally that he was a bad guy and needed to go.
    Been a bad couple of months for terrorists.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Are you sticking your head in the sand and pretending that Iran is NOT going to retaliate?

    Are you sticking your head in the sand and pretending that your IMPOTUS has NOT alienated ALL of our allies?

    Are you sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the DIRE RAMIFICATIONS that getting into a shooting war with Iran will incur WITHOUT any allies?
     
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    It's accepted globally that DJT is a bad guy and needs to go. What to do?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    While I can understand that if Israel DID ally itself with the USA in any ME war it would be instantly pounded into dust by every other nation in the region but it seems sheer STUPIDITY on our part to get embroiled in yet another ME war WITHOUT any allies.
     
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    Agreed!

    But the IMPOTUS is trying to start ANOTHER ME war!
     
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    Let Iran retaliate, I’m not worried. The regime isn’t supported by a large portion of their own population.
    Now that this murderous dog has been put down, maybe the Iranians can protest their own government with out the fear of being tortured and slaughtered.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So your position is that one solitary military leader was all that stood between the Iranian Mullahs and the overthrow of their regime?

    That kind of facile grasp of ME politics explains why the IMPOTUS has so many loyal supporters.
     
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    Why would we go to war with Iran? They do not have the capability to attack us. They can make trouble with terrorist attacks around the world, but they were already doing that and apparently they were planning a big one.

    What Trump did is risky. But inaction is also risky. Inaction tends to last a lot longer than action.

    Short version. There is no right answer. No matter what we did, there would have been negative consequences.
     
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    Do you think Trump even heard of Sun Tzu much less read him. They teach him at all the military academies, but Trump already "knows more about war than the Generals."
    Do you think Trump even heard of Sun Tzu much less read him. They teach him at all the military academies, but Trump already "knows more about war than the Generals.
     
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    Rediscover 1776. AmeriCANS CAN stand alone. The AmeriCANNOTS didn't get their way again.

     
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    You probably shouldn’t be touting any grasp of mid east politics. I watched CNN and MSNBC yesterday and you are spamming this forum with their spin and talking points verbatim.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your IMPOTUS has PROVOKED Iran which WILL retaliate thereby starting ANOTHER mindless war!

    Your IMPOTUS should NOT have CONSULTED Congress BEFORE provoking Iran!

    Your opinion is upheld but not relevant to the topic of getting into a war WITHOUT allies.
     
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    Thanks for establishing that you do not understand the meaning of the term spamming and do not grasp the DIRE RAMIFICATIONS of what your INCOMPETENT IMPOTUS has just done.
     
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    ...to get elected.....
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Does the IMPOTUS imagine that the electorate will mistake him for a "war" POTUS as opposed to the "whore" POTUS that he actually is?
     
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    They will do exactly what is asked and required of them from the U.S! Anyone that thinks differently is being foolish and simply kidding themselves :)
     
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    The U.S. wants no war with Iran.

    Iran is the aggressor. The issue of war is in their hands.
     
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    Why would we go to war. Iran does not have the capability to attack us.
    There was no requirement to notify congress.
    There is no need to go to war.
     
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    I'm not concerned about Iran retaliating for the USA killing the general -- Iran has been retaliating against us for years and years. We need to do like Israel -- Stay out of the area but any attack on the USA or it's citizens and we will track down the bad guys and kill them.
     
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    Wrong!

    Your IMPOTUS committed an act of aggression against a senior member of the Iranian regime.
     
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