America is edging closer to civil war

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My only interest lies in what the TRUTH is. And that is a rather rare commodity today, and perhaps always has been?

    We live in times where even if you can present the facts of something, and that makes no difference whatsoever, because far too many people, for whatever reason, simply refuse to accept those facts, nor believe anything that might contradict their views and opinions. But what is the motivation behind it? Perhaps more than just one thing. But this leads to people having a self made, agenda driven, perception of reality, a lie, that they want others to accept. I find it appalling, for it lacks integrity, virtue and morality. It is what one would expect from Satan. If such a being exists.

    To be fair, no nation is exempt from this most evil affliction, for it permeates all gov'ts, and some people who live under those gov'ts. And so few people really give a sh*t.

    But then, if facts show a nation, or individuals, as being morally bankrupt, lacking high principles, at least those who lie, know that they lack morals and principles, which explains why they lie in the first place. Of course, some people are plainly stupid, for those cannot be blamed, for stupidity comes many times from insufficient IQ, and the inability to be logical, and rational.

    Facts have relevance to the people of integrity, and who are serious, responsible human beings. But it looks as if the world has a huge deficit in regards to this. And therein is one of the reason why our actions, collectively, look to be nightmares of insanity. Perhaps we are capable of evolving away from this, but the progress has been minimal, and only moved along by those who have intelligence, honesty, integrity and a moral center. Just far too few of those kinds. We are in a cycle now that exhibits so little of this. Higher angels are seldom appealed to, and instead we murder them at every opportunity, or so it seems to me. But then again, the earth has always been the abode of Satan, and this is where he stomps about. Not that I believe in Satan, as anything but a metaphor for something else.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    It's helping people who don't want to be forced to live under the Russian kleptocracy.
     
  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You're dreaming if you think Mexico wants to be associated with Russia.
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    Oh, please--there's no evidence the U.S. and/or NATO have or had any intention or interest in attacking Russia. When NATO was formed, the U.S. could easily have nuked the Soviet Union back to the Stone Age.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    I have, starting years ago with the Vietnam War. Russia is no one's friend. The evidence of that is how their neighbors dislike them.
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah right! Tell us another one.

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course they hate Russia, wouldn't you:

    1 - Their Catholic neighbors hate Russia for not going under the Pope, and not allowing them take over Orthodox lands.

    2 - The Turks hate Russia for trying to free the Orthodox lands and people under them.

    3 -The Polish/German Jews hate them for being chased out of Russia for threatening the government with their liberal political ideas.

    4 - The British hate them because they feared Russian encroachment on their empire in the East.

    5 - The Swedes hate Russia for having defeated them and forcing the prisoners to clean the streets of Saint Petersburg.


     
  8. LangleyMan

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    Putin...

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  9. Mandelus

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    Jeanette ... honestly!

    Kadyrov is a piece of sh** and this Russian version of conspiracy is the same way BS as this "9/11 was an inside job of CIA etc." crap and so on.

    And I find it breathtaking how you try to defend the Syrian bastard Assad again and again and to put pink clouds around the Russian involvement there ... as well accuse the evil West to be guilty fo all and everything with the same breath as you put a halo on Russia and Putin!
    Please note that I have nothing agains tthe Russian involvement in Syria and that they support their bastard puppet, simply because the USA have their own bastard puppets who they support and help. But I don't try to tell issues more nice as they are with my opinion, I accept reality and mark US hypocrisy if they blame soemone else to be or do evil, when they do not better by their own!
     
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    Why are they so obsessed with Russia then?
     
  11. Mandelus

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    Cerberus mate ... honestly:
    It is the fear for the Russian bear, because after end of cold war thexy ignored them and laugh about them ... but now they don't laugh anymore!
     
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    Communism does not, has never, and will never work anywhere. China abandoned communism when the Soviet Union fell in 1991. There are now more millionaires (people who own money don't exist in communist societies) in China than there are in the United States.

    https://money.cnn.com/2015/05/27/luxury/china-million-millionaires/index.html
     
  13. Destroyer of illusions

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    Then what can you say about the USA? If the United States has the largest number of prisoners in the world, torture is officially allowed, and the NSA conducts total surveillance of Americans and even citizens of other states. And where, according to the "Patriotic Act", any citizen can be arrested without charge. People have been imprisoned for many years without charge. In comparison with the USA, China looks like a very free country.
     
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    Some anti- fa types will riot in leftist coastal enclaves, good for them. Burn it down.
     
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  15. LangleyMan

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    Who says they're obsessed?
     
  16. Mandelus

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    They could do it until the uSSR had also nuclear weapons later and since then until now, both can each other nuke away from the planet several times.

    And no evidence you think? Well .... Let me ask and tell you this way to show the real truth:

    Would you - the USA - allow Russian bis military advisor and arming action in any of the Caribbean Sea and Central America states or even worse, allow Russian Military bases there without becoming mad? No!
    So why should Russia stay calm when the US is doing right this in the direct neighborhood of Russia and not becoming mad, eh?

    Take this anti-missile shield / system issue which is placed in Poland and Romania and there the US President of this time - Bush Jr. - seriously tried to tell this fairy tale that this is not against Russia, but against Iranian and North Korean missiles! Anyone who believed this BS is hopeless stupid ... and by fact it is against Russia and hinders their capacities!
    This was an US action without any reason and that Russia reacts on this is well reasoned!
     
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    You're telling me you haven't noticed? Fake Russian assassins in Salisbury, imagined Russian hacking in the presidential election, and tangible sabre rattling right on Russia's border even though Russia has made no threats whatsoever? And I could go on.
     
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  18. LangleyMan

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    The Finns hate them for invading their country and taking part of their territory.
    The Poles hate them for what they did to them in WW2 and then keeping them under Soviet domination for a half-century.
     
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    None of that is true.
     
  20. Destroyer of illusions

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    In the middle of the last century also talked about Cubans.
     
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    Tell it to the prisoners of Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo
     
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    So what? Read the work of Lenin on the NEP or the work of Stalin on the artels. Both during the NER and the artels there were very rich people. And it does not contradict communist ideas. Now in China, economic policy is very similar to the policy of the NEP in Russia.
     
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    Finland, Poland and the Baltic countries are the territory of Russia temporarily not controlled by Russia. The key word here is "temporarily". As well as Alaska, northern California and New York.
     
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    Thank you proving what the true diseased russian mindset it; accuse the West/US of expansionism while claiming the entire world will be under your control, got it. I'll highlight your disgusting post the next time one of you russkies complains about NATO coming right to your doorstep.
     
  25. fmw

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    So you aren't talking about the U.S. You are talking about Iraq and Cuba. Those are prisoners of war. They are being treated like all prisoners of war. So tell this to the survivors of the gulags.
     

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