America Needs To Control Its Anger Over Saudi Arabia!

America needs to smack Saudi Arabia upside the head with a 2x4.

 

As a permanent resident of the USA he was entitled by our laws to the full protections of the United States. The Saudis knew this and killed the guy anyway. That is a direct slap in the face to our country. If we let any piss ant country kill the people under our protection abroad we are asking for our citizens to also be harmed. I dont like our interference in international affairs, but I do expect other countries to know better then to kill people that are under our protection. If Trump lets this stand then he is not putting America first, he is bowing down to the Saudis and saying THEY can do what ever they want and America will do nothing.

 

Share it with the world using the media. And then they need to expel the SA diplomats. Stop dragging the US into this. It's not our problem. It's Turkey's and SA's problem.

 

Real deal journalists, have a target on their backs, which is perhaps one reason that we have seen the death of journalism, here and elsewhere in recent decades. The powerful, those in power, whether they hold a gov't office or whose power comes from their great wealth, don't like truth being spoken to power. When that power looks little different than any other organized crime organization.

No one should expect that this will improve anytime soon, when even our own Sec. of State, a potential president, voiced the query to the obama cabinet and others, in regards to "droning Assange"... "Can't we just drone him?" or so it is alleged. This shows that when a president has the power to call on drone strikes, as a way of fixing a problem, sooner or later someone with that power or can convince another who has that power, can and will use murder in order to solve a problem, even a problem that involves a journalist speaking truth to power. Powers will eventually always be abused by someone, and so we should be really careful in what powers we allow a president, one person, to have. And of course we are not at all careful about that. But to the contrary.

Sounds like Hillary and this Saudi king, are very much alike, and we can bet your life that our own gov't has many people like hillary serving us at this very moment. And the world is full of these kinds of human beings. So, what do we do about that, instead of just focusing on one Saudi king? But thankfully, in so far as we know, the US does not murder journalists, but we do go after them when they speak truth to power, causing them, like greewald to have to flee the country.

 

BS, he is entitled to nothing more than the millions of illegal Mexicans living permanently in the US. If they return to Mexico and get themselves killed, who cares?

 

So the United States has to do something, because...reasons, but Germany and the rest of the EU can continue to buy oil from Saudi Arabia and do nothing?

 

Why?

 

15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia. The thing is that once we abandon our moral frame we become nothing more than a country of self-interests.

 

Because if the US doesn’t do the heavy lifting or at least trying to help. The world would crumble. If the US didn’t have the 700+ military bases or so, or the 20 aircraft carriers chugging gas and hauling ass all over the world, bad people would take control.

Europe would be at the mercy of Russia. Russia would invade Europe in a heartbeat if the US pulled all military assets out the continent, their invasion would be justified under “protecting ethnic Russians”. Of course they would be stopped at about Berlin, just because of geography being the biggest challenge for the Russian military and lack of assets. They would though take over all of the Balkans, all of Eastern Europe and most of Middle Europe.

Then there would be a 3 way war in the Middle East. Sunnis vs Shiites vs Israelis. Basically Saudi Arabia vs Israel vs Iran. The reason why this doesn’t happen now is because if Saudi Arabia were to attack Israel, they know that America would back up the Israelis no matter what. And if Iran attacks Israel or Saudi Arabia, then the US will be there in 24 hours and will kick ass.

Then the last one is China and the South China Sea and the East China Sea. China wants oil and needs oil to run its country of 1.4 billion. There are huge oil pockets all over the South China Sea and now with the US Navy gone, no navy would be able to stop them from making more islands and taking overnight islands from other countries like Vietnam, Philippines, or Indonesia. Then China still has beef with Japan over the Mukden Incident. Which was basically a staged event by the Japanese imperial army in 1931, so they could be justified in invading China.

Does the US want to be the worlds policeman? I do not know, I think it does make the world safer and furthers America’s assets and agenda in a good way. Sure America is not perfect and does some shady things. But every country does this, it’s just America who is caught more often because they are up on the world stage more often than others. Does America always do the ethical or even legal option? No obviously but the U.S. is trying to make the world safer.

 

You are comparing apples to oranges. The US has treaties and interests to honor an protect. That covers what you are linking above. However this was an individual. He is a Saudi citizen, presumable killed on Saudi territory, in Turkey. The US has no dog in this fight and should avoid commitment. This is not an attack on an American interest or Ally. This incident calls for police action not political action.

 

Wrong. The U.S. has several dogs in this fight, one of those dogs is valued at 350 billion U.S. currency. The Saudi arms deal is going to be the reason Trump pushes this under a rug. Oh yes and then there's the son in law, Jared Kushner interests. Let's begin the story of the bromance between Jared and Mohammed with the first trip after the inauguration. A president’s inaugural trip has traditionally been to a neighbor, Canada or Mexico. Trump instead first headed to Saudi Arabia, in May 2017, and Kushner was instrumental in setting the agenda, so instrumental that he says he got a rabbi’s permission to join his father-in-law on the Shabbat flight. Remember that glowing orb Trump and MBS’s dad touched together? And Trump signed a $110 billion arms sale deal with the country. Saudi Arabia's crown prince reportedly bragged about having Jared 'in his pocket'. You have to wonder what Jared Kushner has gotten from the Saudis.

 

Good post. I don't have a link for this as it was some commentator on the news but, apparently 58 of the 61 groups designated by the US as terrorists are supported/funded and/or sometimes armed by the Saudis.

 

What are you taking about. There is a bunch of evidence.

 

I see your problem you need this.

 

Yeah, I've seen that before, you're not the first to use it. (yawn)

 

No kidding.

That meme that he posted is so LAME and UNORIGINAL only a dedicated RW Troll would even think of using it.

 

Did I say that? No!
But who is the biggest friend and self declared closest ally of Saudi Arabia again and putting his saving hands above the Royal Family again, eh?
TiP: it is not Germany or the EU...

 

Who is again the self declared closest friend and ally of Saudi Arabia and putting his saving hands above them ... and has so also by all circumstances the duty not to be blind if their puppet makes BS, eh?

But anyway ... latest news tell that it looks like that he was killed by accident in an interrogation. A nice phrase for torture I would say ...

 

https://immigration.findlaw.com/visas/immigrants-your-rights-as-a-permanent-resident.html

As a permanent resident, you have the right to:

• Be protected by all laws of the U.S., your state of residence, and local jurisdictions.

 

If a national government shouldn't take justice into its hands, who should?

 

If it's domestic issues you want to focus upon then let me reply in this way instead:

Is it your opinion that the U.S. is "a good country" that "respects the laws of its own nation and doesn't remove justice from the hands of Democratic principles"?

 

Then I've no idea what you are saying. Do you think the US has a responsibility to "do something" or not?

 

News flash, this guy wasn't killed in the US, state of residence or local jurisdiction. If he had, again it would be a police matter not a political matter.

 

The House of Saud is most certainly a corrupt group of human rights abusers.

But the bottom line is they are almost certain to be far better than anything conceivable that replaces them.

Just like the Shah was in Iran.

 

Did you see the ABC video reruns of Dirty Donald bragging about how many hundreds of millions he has made off his friends the Saudi's.