America Needs To Control Its Anger Over Saudi Arabia!

Rather, I have to ask you if you know the meaning of the word hypocrisy ...

If you act as a moralist and a prosecutor in one of your hostile lands, as often happens when the same thing or something else happens ... but then, in total silence, when it happens to a friend, then that is what?

Anyway ... Trump has been reacting and threatening Saudi Arabia a few hours earlier that it will have consequences if the allegations are correct.

 

Obvious to you, not to me. You said that he wasn't an American so who cares? I said that if he was an American, Trump wouldn't care anyway because Trump and the flock believe that the press is the "enemy of the people." How does that translate into anger?

 

Not at all. This is a discussion only and not a call to arms. You don't know what Hillary Clinton would have done. so don't assume.

 

Nobody has suggested we go to war with a rogue country like Saudi Arabia, but people are strongly in favor of sanctioning them if they don't oust the Saudi Crown Prince for being the architect of this gruesome murder.

As for the Molly Tibbetts murder, it was a shocking and horrible thing. Unfortunately, women get murdered every day. They are abducted, beaten, raped and killed on an average of 3 a day. Most of them are murdered by their spouse or boyfriend. The fact that Cristhian Bahena Rivera committed the murder of Molly Tibbetts had nothing to do with his legal status.

The family of Molly Tibbetts actually pleaded with the media to stop using her murder as a political weapon against immigration. Fox was insistent in weaponizing her murder and it worked, didn't it? Unfortunate that it had to be at the expense of a mourning family.

"At the outset, politicians and pundits used Mollie’s death to promote various political agendas. We appealed to them and they graciously stopped. For that, we are grateful," Tibbetts' father, Rob Tibbetts, wrote in an op-ed in the Des Moines Register published Saturday.

"Sadly, others have ignored our request. They have instead chosen to callously distort and corrupt Mollie’s tragic death to advance a cause she vehemently opposed. I encourage the debate on immigration; there is great merit in its reasonable outcome,"

"But do not appropriate Mollie’s soul in advancing views she believed were profoundly racist. The act grievously extends the crime that stole Mollie from our family and is, to quote Donald Trump Jr., 'heartless' and 'despicable,'" Mollie’s father wrote.

 

If thats a reference number to a post I can't see it on the phone.

 

Trump claims the US is producing more oil than ever. We even export oil.

Are we oil independent or not?




The people, not the state, retain that right to determine their family.

The Supreme court rule the state's interest in the family does not supersede the woman's.



I believe that people should not be allowed to murder, but when I'm put in a position of kill or be killed, I would not hesitate nor do I have a problem with government exercising the death penalty for some crimes and not for others wh

 

Autos need refined oil not just plain old crude.

 

He was formerly one of their own inner circle for his entire life, not America's inner circle. A media aide to the Prince, not to POTUS. An aide to the Saudi Chief of intel, not to American CIA. A Saudi born and raised, not American. Heir to Saudi billions, not American. Member of wealthy Saudi family, not American. Former head of Saudi national news, not American news. So the Saudi's executed one of their own, inside one of their own structures in the middle east. Big deal. And who is surprised that Saudis can be brutal. It is their way.

 

Being a Saudi makes him no less a human being.

 

It is the Wahabi way. No surprise or shock. It is little different than Wahabi's lining up 21 Coptics on the beach in Libya and beheading them. The Quran commands that good Muslims do this, and their reward will be great.

 

What's with Jamal Khashoggi's uncle and shutting down consulates?

 

https://spectator.us/2018/10/jamal-khashoggi/

 

Jamal Khashoggi was 12 in 1970.

https://spectator.us/2018/10/jamal-khashoggi/

 

Why should a US gal running a CNC milling machine making a good wage lose her job for some angry Saudi killed by angry Saudi's in a religious squabble?

It should never happen.

 

A dead "human being". We are not the world. We are families and nations. He knew the rules.

 

Exactly. The root of this assassination is a religious squabble.

 

In today's world many journalists want to be the news not report the news. We see many so called journalists running with negative stories about Trump that are later proven to be false or unsubstantiated. Many journalists are little more than activist hiding behind a press credential. This guy definitely fit into that category. I fought in Vietnam where reporters would regularly report on pending operations, aiding the enemy and putting our lives on the line. You will find no sympathy for a dead reporter from me. In my opinion, Sherman had it right.

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A "religious squabble"? How does the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi in any way be related to a religious squabble? I think what you're saying is that if the Saudis don't buy our military weapons to use to kill innocent civilians in their dispute with Yemen, you're going to be out of job, is that what you're saying? If it is, you're probably wrong because if you're working as a CNC operator then your company already has enough CNC lathe and toolmaking jobs to keep you working, right? The U.S. hasn't completed the deal for the planes yet. If that's not what you're talking about then I don't know what it is.

This isn't a religious squabble. This is a geopolitical issue that speaks to a dictatorial regime that simply murders enemies. There will be news forthcoming to show how Jared Kushner helped the Crown Prince by compiling a list of 'enemies' to hand to the Saudis. Jared Kushner got that information from our own intelligence agency, the CIA. It's only starting to make the news in the US now, the British tabloids already have it.

This was released this morning from the British tabloid, the Daily Mail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gs-Jared-Kushner-handed-U-S-intelligence.html

 

We've sold arms to the Saudi's for decades. They are one of our best customers. They've also been killing their dissidents for decades. Why is this a crisis to you now?

 

You are perfectly free to point out where exactly, I'm being a hypocrite, but simply calling me one without backing it up is simply insulting another poster for no reason.

Yes I think he is now overreacting.

 

That's exactly my point!

We're not talking about an American journalist! No one is! The Saudi's have not chopped up an American journalist. So you just sound crazy talking about something that has nothing to do with anything in this topic.

 

If you are unable to reference posts then that does make things difficult for you.

 

Not much of a point.

 

That's your problem then, since you're the one posting about some hypothetical American journalist. I've been trying to educate you that there is no American journalist involved in this story.