American democracy is broken

And people like you refuse to "see the data" when it is starring you in the face. Income Disparity in America is one of the worst of any developed country on earth!

See that sad fact here:

Uncle Sam has, since Reckless Ronnie took office, allowed upper-income to become wildly exaggerated. That Weath (aka Net Worth - which is Wealth minus Debt) goes to a very select small percentage of Americans. (Less than 1%)

Whilst the percentage of Americans living below the Poverty Threshold ($25K revenue for a family of four) remains stuck around 14% of the total population ...

 

Nerd-babbling in a Debate Forum!

Go away ....

 

You are mistaken

The swamp rats in my party count on your apathy

They know that they can get away with almost anything as long as the opposition is weak and divided

 

It isn't apathy. I do care. I just understand that voting doesn't work. The people get the government they ask for. I will vote if I ever find a suitable candidate for which to vote. The candidates we have are garbage.

 

Request denied.

 

First off, there is no disparity. That's the excuse used by thieves and covetous people since the beginning of time. Second, there is no such thing as income distribution. Wealth is created by individuals, not plucked from a tree and distributed by regulations. Third point, those below the poverty line get benefits not reflected in their reported income. For instance, a family of four might get an extra thirty thousand dollars in benefits to go with their twenty five thousand in income....for a total of fifty five thousand dollars. Lastly, most people just want to get by. Consequently, essentially everyone is exactly where they ought to be. Some rich, some poor, and some in between. In freedom, one may also go from poor to so so to rich and vice versa.

 

Useless, blah-blah-blah.

You are in a Debate Forum not your favorite bar.

Go away ... !

 

Fine. Then you go on "Ignore" ...

 

It is apathy

You sit on your ass waiting to be spoon fed a candidate that meets all your demands

While the rest of us roll up our sleeves and stand up to be counted by trying to make the imperfect better

Which we did with trump

For all his untactfull ways he is moving tje country in the. right direction

 

It’s funny righties now think running trillion dollar deficits, causing the highest illegal immigration in 13 years, and losing face on the world stage as moving the country in the right direction.

 

Priceless. Man makes some valid points and you have the nads to blow him off with that ^

The biggest problem this failing democracy faces is the unwillingness to listen to that which we don't wish to hear. This applies to all sides of the ideopolitical spectrum.

 

Congress is addicted to deficits as every member wants buy her seat in the next election

And trump is not responsible for the alien imvasion from mexico

Blame congress fir doing nothing

 

Until the last election, both houses of Congress were "owned" by the Replicants ...

 

The country's economy started building jobs two years before he was elected. He's no magician. He happens to be a lucky guy, that's all. Howzat?

You are forgetting that Donald Dork LOST THE ELECTION in the popular-vote, which in in any fair-country should be the only manner of voting.

But in ours, it was the mischief of an unfair Electoral College that got him elected.

Our "democracy" is work-in-progress ... it ain't done yet, two centuries after it started ...

 

And so you want to address these disparities by electing people who will use the force of government to take it from Group A and give it to Group B??

I'm sure that's never been tried in history before??

How do think this would turn out??

 

Trump has signed every budget sent to him. He owns the trillion dollar deficits.

Of course he is.

I place blame where it correctly belongs. Trump.

 

Your graphs are meaningless trivia that have no place in reality. What's to debate?

 

EUROPEANS LIVE A LIFESPAN FOUR YEARS LONGER THAN THE US

In some industries where competition is impossible and not desirable. Healthcare and Education are the top two qualifications that meet this criteria.

What you don't understand is that Defense of the nation is far less important to life-span than GOOD HEALTH. Already, yours in the US is four-years less than mine here in France. (Whilst the US wastes HALF OF ITS DISCRETIONARY BUDGET on the DoD, when there is no real threat to the integrity of the country!)

Yes, FOUR YEARS of lower life-span! (See infographic here!) And why?

Because I live in France that has a National Healthcare System that sets the cost of healthcare services! And why is that practicable?

Because healthcare is a national service that does not, cannot and should not adapt to a Market Economy. The Europeans have got it right - Healthcare is a National Service (provided by most private doctors) at stipulated/fixed service-costs!

Which is why more Europeans avail themselves of their National Healthcare Service. Which means what, besides a longer lifespan in Europe than the US!

It means the show "ER" was a joke in Europe. There is no such thing as "Emergency Waiting Rooms" at a European hospital! A real emergency is brought into the nearest Public Hospital by "doctors" who estimate the patient's danger immediately resulting from a Real Emergency. Otherwise we see our doctors here regularly for annual or bi-annual "check-ups" that signal potential medical dangers before they happen!

And not a bunch of people who rush to a hospital waiting-room because they cannot afford Health Care Insurance, which is exorbitantly expensive - BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATIZED! And therefore there is less healthcare to those who need it most.

Moreover, your GP in the US earns on average just above $200K a year. The same GP in Europe doesn't earn even half that amount - because healthcare services are priced by the governmental Healthcare Service! (Why is this fair-and-equitable? Because in Europe as a student the doctor paid an annual university tuition fee of less than $1K and not the $20K as in the US!)

Eat your heart out ...

PS: Don't believe all the above? Then read here the results of an international study of comparative Healthcare-Systems. The US is not even in the Top-Ten countries!

 

No, I think you are wasting your time. History tells me it doesn't matter who people elect. If it did I would be with you. I do agree with you about Trump. I think he is our best president since Teddy Roosevelt.

 

Thank you.

 

Only uninformed idiots do not realize that our political system if broken.

 

Broken, how. Define!

Enough of the monosyllabic posts. Or, go blather on Message Board!

 

There is no such thing as a functional democratic process without a fair and free media. In addition - there is no such thing as a functional democratic process without a population that understands the basics principles on which this nation was founded - legitimacy of authority, essential liberty and so on.

We have neither.

In addition - when the State is allowed to create and disseminate propaganda on the citizens - it doesn't help
Further - when elected officials are "selected" rather than "elected" due to big money influence - the official is then not acting on behalf of the will of the people but the will of the big money interest that selected them.

 

When the other side loses they call the winners "uniformed idiots".

 

NO! IT IS NOT MISSION-IMPOSSIBLE!

You are blind to the factual evidence. We as a people have the unhindered right to band together to form whatever political party we desire.

Unfortunately, for more than two centuries we have decided to band into two groups - one Left the other Right. When, in fact, in both of those political "wings" is a Center-Right and Center-Left. And THIS FACTION has been voting in majority Left or Right to elect representatives at both state and national levels. (The last PotUS election showed once again how a nation of "supposedly free people" could see their voting-process warped/manipulated to elect an individual who actually lost the popular-vote of the nation!)

It is THERE. But we must find the way to release its potential that has been harnessed by two political parties manipulating the popular-vote by Gerrymandering and the Electoral College!

Both of which are unacceptable engineering by political-parties of the popular-vote!

Propaganda is in the eye of the beholder.

The Internet has warped the process of communication in the US. So FIX IT!

Laws can be passed such that those manipulating the media (for a political-party's own particular goals) are brought to trial. The process is NOT MISSION-IMPOSSIBLE!

Just Mission Improbable! And why?

Because one of the two major-parties has employed those mechanisms to gain power historically in both the Legislature and the Executive Office!

Wakey! Wakey! Tell America that you deserve the democracy that your forefathers had in mind. Not the one that has occurred by the Manipulative Mischief of the voting processes ... !