American Wages, the Minimum Wage and Income Brackets

If the demand were really there, the employer could train, in most instances.
(The only exception might be things that require a long investment in training)

If the employer won't or can't train, maybe there wasn't really that much demand in the first place.

 

If what demand was where? Alaska? Florida?

Some criteria:
*Postsecondary Education covers a vast array of subjects (both at the vocational and university level). It is best for a country to assume the responsibility for curriculum and then "spot" different subjects in different states in order to obtain a minimum-number of students throughout the US (to justify the cost).
*So, state universities (with Federal subventions) could then teach specific courses to all students from wherever they might come. One need not obtain a degree from Hah-vahd/MIT in order to become a doctor or a lawyer or even engineering. And there is no reason whatsoever why any particular degree should privilege a class of people who can afford its high cost.
*Education is like Healthcare - we all need a great deal of both nowadays ...

So, state-schools could teach state-students in general subjects for two years with students who needed some time to orientate themselves career-wise; and as the students were able to specialize, they could chose a particular head-discipline (like Medicine or Law or Whatever) in any Public University where an opening existed. (And, in fact, with the advances in Educational Techniques, some might take courses "online". They would still have to pass sitting exams in courses that lead to a given degree specialization. But that is very much in the future.)

An employer trains nothing that is not inline with their basic needs. Moreover, they need to recuperate the costs in their product/services pricing. They train only where there is a need and the training is highly specialized.

My Point: State education has to be very low cost in order to attract as many people as possible. The future of any nation will depend wholly upon how well it teaches at a Postsecondary Level. That basic-fact is obvious today ...

 

Uncle Sam IS EDUCATING! It's just at a state level, and needs to be brought up to a national level. Private Postsecondary Studies at private universities are too damn expensive.

The Federal government, in cahoots with existing state postsecondary schooling, must undertake the necessary funding.

(Especially given the fact that we are pissing a Mountain-of-Moulah down the DoD-pothole - and for what? Nothing that really matters to the economic future of America ... !)

Please explain the above in Plain English. If you can, that is.

What do you mean by "collapsing DP"? How about employing here plain-english instead of military nomenclature ... ?

 

Yes, the Department of Education (in DC) could very well help states that need it to fund the need of unskilled workers to obtain skills. But, that sort of process is difficult to do on a state-by-state plan. Not everybody in every state wants to pursue the same postsecondary education.

So, why not have the Federal Gummint fund specific state schools for educational programs that might interest people from all states in the US? Who cares where the education takes place - all that matters is that people obtain the degree certificates and find a job wherever they want or can ...

 

Given the obvious failure of our education system I think the best approach would be to create vested education accounts for the parents and guardians of children. .
Education accounts for individual unskilled workers for job training seems like a good idea. State schools are, IMO, a waste of money.

 

The university system is an obsolete waste of money. Almost all "higher" education should be moved online ASAP.
Given the failure of the federal government to win a clear unambiguous victory in war for over 7 decades large cuts in the conventional defense budget make sense.

The only thing government does with any efficiency is print green checks made out to individual American workers.
It should do more of that and less of everything else.

Our Urban Hell Holes are collapsing. They are all ruled by the DP.

 

Just call me a progressive.

"The socialist principle that 'he who does not work, neither shall he eat' is already realized; the other socialist principle, namely 'an equal amount of products for an equal amount of labor', is also already realized." The State and Revolution, VI Lenin, Penguin copyright 1992, p. 85.

 

The minimum wage serves only to idle unskilled workers and help Big Business crush competition.
Minimum wage laws are irrational and very destructive.

 

NCES BREAKDOWN OF POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION

Because they are insufficiently funded, which happens in some states and should not. Meaning, postsecondary schooling MUST BE FUNDED NATIONALLY!

On a postsecondary level, not all states may have the financing to maintain programs that fulfil the need of all students. So, let the students go where they find the program they wish to pursue (and have that funded by Federal subventions). Which leads to the hodge-podge of a multitude of programs across the country offering postsecondary education.

All the Dept. of Education need do is assure that there is regular assessment of program needs, and that those needs are met across the country in Federally-subsidized state universities.

Which does not seem like Mission Impossible to me. The kids need degrees in the right skills to assure they can work. Whether that is in Teaching, Doctoring or Engineering is relevant only in that across the nation there are state-universities (Federally subsidized) that can meet the Demand.

Nobody should be prevented from obtaining a postsecondary degree either because:
(1) They don't have the funding or
(2) The program they would like to pursue is not available in their state or
(3) There is no university in the US that cannot accommodate their desire for a degree but they don't quite know in what field it should be.

If all three alternatives are catered to, it will open greatly both the desire AND the ability for our youth to obtain a postsecondary schooling anywhere in the US. And that is not happening today.

What the NCES indicates as the breakdown of postgraduate education in America today, from here: The Condition of Education 2018.

It is evident that most students (60 to 80%) are below the age of 34.

What is not evident is how many actually graduate with a degree. (And that calculation is not given in the report!)

 

Our schools are very well funded obsolete boondoggles. They suck up money like black holes suck up light.

“In New York’s Big Four school districts, 6 out of 10 schools fail 90% of their students: In 58% of schools in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, and Yonkers, 90% or more of children failed 2014 state exams in English Language Arts and math or were not college ready.*”

“*Elementary and middle schools are categorized as failing when 90% (or more) of students fail to pass annual state ELA and math exams administered for grades 3-8. High schools are categorized as failing when more than 90% of students fail to meet the state’s standard for college readiness, the aspirational performance measure.” NEW REPORT DETAILS DEPTH OF SCHOOL FAILURE ACROSS NEW YORK STATE, 12/2/14, Press Release 12.2
February 23, 2015 • Press Release [Families for Excellent Schools] • Don't Steal Possible
*FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE* December 2, 2014
http://www.familiesforexcellentschools.org/news/dontstealpossible/press-release-12-2

 

No, it shouldn't. Only certain parts.

Americans must learn the art of public discourse. Which they don't know generally.

Any fifth-grade Brit speaks better English than Donald Trump.

Speaking good english is an art, and the vulgate is privileged in the US. It is at the heart of the dumbing-down of the country ...

 

Laboratories are still needed - little else. The rest should be online.
The common vernacular was good enough for Dante - it should always be the language of politics.

 

Government is Socialism; we subscribe to Capitalism and merely need to learn how to use it, for all of its capital worth in modern capital times simply because we have a Commerce Clause.

 

only through capitalism induced inequality;

Labor should be able to obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

 

If you did that and I made more than $250k, I'd either stop working for the rest of the year, or find some offshore loophole or similar.

 

Who the frick would keep working once they made a quarter mil if they'd only get to keep 5% after that?

In what sort of leftist fantasyland would anybody keep their nose to the grindstone for a lousy 5% cut?

Only a complete chump would get out of bed in the morning for 5%.

 

When the states created their union, they never gave it any legislative authority to provide postsecondary schooling.

 

Why not $300K a year?

 

Aint gonna happin, is it ... ?

 

No, you"ve got it wrong.

Online subjects are simple enough for children to follow. in postsecondary education there must be not only the transfer of ideas but their debate. That can only happen in a unified class-structure.

Anybody who thinks everything can be taught "on-line" is fooling only themselves ...

 

You are misunderstanding the exchange-content in this forum debate.

Perhaps you'd be happier elsewhere on a Message Board. Go for it ... !

 

What, me make over $250k? Who knows. I've done it before multiple times, but today I'm medically unable to work.

 

What's "exchange-content", precious? Is that like an Express immigration claus?

Happy as clam right here, sweetheart.

 

No doubt.

As the saying goes, "Ignorance is bliss ..."

 

No, "Government is not Socialism".