Americans: racism a big problem

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  1. Fallen

    Fallen Well-Known Member

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    I don't get this whole farse. Everyone knows, or should know that the notion of race is MADE UP by Virginian plantation owners. The protestant movement was strong in Americas and everyone were devout. In the bible it speaks against enslaving fellow christians. This became a problem to wealthy plantation owners as many black were converting. So they made up this notion of race to work around that tad bit.
     
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    Again, the market was for labor and necessarily slaves. Slaves were just cheaper because the Africans made them that way. Indentured servitude was just too expensive especially with the manpower needs of the European nations going to other needs. Alternatives are also found all the time. Where I once lived, there was a good business in growing citrus, but the political and economic price for supporting the Hispanic labor force became too much. This shifted quickly to growing high quality hay as relatively high tech operations. The same thing happened with sugar. Sugar drove a huge part of the slave trade but with the conversion from cane to beets for sugar production, the need for foreign sources and slaves went away.
     
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    Every country has elements of racism---even yours!
     
  4. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes we do have a problem, primarily with respect to our aboriginal population.
     
  5. Lesh

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    Don't even pretend that Africans were the root cause of American slave trade. They were acting as our agents. If they hadn't done tht we would have hired someone else or done it ourselves.
     
  6. Fallen

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    They are the root cause. They have been trading slaves among themselves LONG BEFORE potugal first came. It was Africans who proposed selling slaves to the Portuguese.

    Europe was reintroduced to slavery by africa. Slaves were just a good investment.
     
  7. bill hill

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    And, if you can't pay your bills, don't have more mouths to feed. Simple math...What a novel idea!
     
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    Wrong again, It was impossible to penetrate sub-Saharan Africa much beyond the coast and for only a few days. Tropical Disease would have wiped out the crews. It was a no-go to do it themselves. In fact, there is no recorded incidence of any White surviving more than a single trip into the interior into well into the 1800's. Then to do yourself would have entailed huge crews. More crew, less cargo. BTW there is really no one else to do the job. You could have gone East and used the Arabs but the route was too far and the British navy would have been all over you. Same for the Nile. Africans sold africans and did so for profit as they have for centuries.
     
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    So there were no "slave prospects" living on the coasts?

    Slavery is as old as mankind and not "rooted" in Africa.

    Blaming slavery in America on Africans is the worst form of rationalization. The South fought a WAR to keep it because it was the basis of their economy.
     
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    Wrong, selling slaves along the west coast was far more profitable than moving them across the continent to Zanzibar or up the Nile. They sold their own people and were glad for the business. Get over it.
     
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    It's notable that our "Racist-In-Chief" Obama has does so much to promote racial conflicts and set back racial progress 50 years. He seems to be the ringleader in proving that blacks are the most racist. Obama should be charged with inciting hate crimes.
     
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    That's what radicals do ... they divide the nation: rich vs. poor, white vs. black, men vs. women, elderly vs. young, labor vs. management, Christians vs. all others, etc., etc.

    That allows them the easiest path to enact their "fundamentally transforming" legislation. It also makes for a very coarse society.
     
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    I tip well. However, if I detected your attitude/bias I might not tip you well. Perhaps you don't provide good service or your bias is evident and this translates into a lesser tip? At least you admit to intentional avoidance from waiters and cab drivers. The cognitive dissonance is evident if you can say that there is no racism or discrimination in the next breath. You've admitted that you discriminate and you have attempted to justify it. It's a good thing that uber exists now, so race isn't revealed in advance.

     
  14. Fallen

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    You don't understand the logic of why poor generally have more kids. If you have enough, chances are that at least one of them will become successful.
     
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    No that's what politicians do. They create a mob mentality and have the mob rile around them so that they can get more votes.

    That mentality speeads

    Good example Hilary is using the whole "war on women" slogan to get women whith their panties in a bunch riled up and vote for her.
     
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    When he was a senator, Obama had the most liberal voting record of anyone in the senate. He's a radical leftist, well to the left of liberal icons like Ted Kennedy. He's always wanted to take us to the left of where Europe has been since WW II.

    Republicans would hate Joe Biden just as much if he was president and had Obama's goals. But you keep believing in unicorns, fairies, and racism.
     
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    Racism is rampant in America. There is all kinds of discrimination there. If you are equally qualified for a particular job you will be rejected before a white when you happen to belong to a black community. Racism, discrimination, slavery are still there but they are in different shapes and forms. Capitalism cultivates racism, slavery and all the rest of inhumane acts or discrimination of one faith or color by another.
     
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    Why are you still posting on a subject you clearly know nothing about?
     
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    It's not. Slavery existed in England long after the fall of the Roman empire. If you don't know that you know nothing about the subject.
     
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    I had never considered myself racist, or even thought much about it until BLM started to (*)(*)(*)(*) me off, and murder rates got out of hand. Unfortunately I have to admit this has changed for me...for me at least this "Black Lives Matter" movement has accomplished the exact opposite of what they seem to want.
     
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    <Mod Edit>

    In August 1486 the Portuguese navigator, Bartholomeu Dias, set sail from the Tagus River at Lisbon with his fleet of two small vessels and a cargo ship. The objective of his journey was to sail round the southern point of Africa in order find a seaway and a trade route to India . At Angra Pequena (now Lüderitzbucht , Namibia ) he erected a cross. Then a tremendous storm forced his ships off course and he and his crew did not reach land until they entered the bay, which is known today as Mossel Bay . It was then that Dias realised that they had already passed the tip of Africa and had actually discovered the sea route to the East. The indigenous Khoi pastoralists fled when they saw the ships entering the bay. On the island of St. Croix near Algoa Bay he also erected a cross and probably kept on sailing until they reached the Fish River in the present Eastern Cape . There the small fleet had to turn back because of insufficient supplies on board. On his return voyage Dias, elated by the realisation of having discovered the sea route to India , changed the name Cabo Tormentoso &#8216;cape of storms&#8217; to Cabo da boa Esperanza &#8216;cape of good hope&#8217;.


    As I said before, EUROPE move on from slavery with the collapse of the roman empire. AFRICA reintroduced slavery whith the establishment of trade routes. African tribes long before European ever came practiced slavery. And when the Portuguese came, they used slaves to bargain with them. Hence the reintroduction of slavery to Europe.

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    After the collapse of roman empire there were no slaves because you don't enslave fellow christians. And the vast majority of Europeans population were christian.




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  23. Doug_yvr

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    This is a follow up to the original OP link that looks a bit more in depth at what impact racism has. The primary point of the article is that racism has a measurable impact on Blacks yet many Whites continue to deny it exists or claim that reverse discrimination is in fact the issue.

    This thread is now full of racist comments directed at minorities. The claim made repeatedly throughout this thread is that it is minorities who are racist but there still is not a single racist comment from a minority aimed at a White person anywhere on the thread.
     
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    Or, the parent gets more entitlement money from Imam hussein
     
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    A larger problem then racism in the us is collectivism and socialism. I would say that is the greatest threat we see in America today.
     

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