Americans Still Favor Private Healthcare System

That leaves out all the Medicare For All Democrats. That leaves I believe Biden, Buttigieg and Bennet that favor some sort of a "public option". The rest believe in some form of Government run health care. Can anyone point out to me anything the Government does better than the private sector? On the Government side the DMV comes to mind. Just imagine going to the Doctor's office and having that DMV experience?

But remember it IS CHEAP. There has to be some minor inconveniences associated with reduced health care costs and universal coverage. What's an extra couple of hours lying on a gurney in the back of an ambulance. You're either very sick or injured it's not like you got a lot else you would be doing. As long as the Ambulance dudes have a good stereo in their rig. I have an idea, maybe the NHS could hire a hypnotist for the parking lot of each hospital. They could hypnotize the patients waiting in the ambulances to sleep. This way the wait for the patient would seem like a few seconds, not hours. The second benefit would be if they expire during the long wait, they won't be in any pain as they drift off into eternity.

Sadly this what the Democrats want for you, but they will still gat a Cadillac policy and immediate care at Bethesda

 

Also Booker, Klobochar, Bloomberg, Patrick, Castro, Yang....

 

The only government healthcare we have in the US is the VA.

 

8 grand obama care deductibles

Screw that

 

What are you talking about?

 

Deductibles

Come on who the hell has 8 grand laying around every year?

 

Allow me to explain my experience:
Before, and after Obamacare:

2011: I had a hip surgery. Out of my pocket $1500. Did not need physical therapy, but was offered physical therapy with $25.00 deductible.
At that time my monthly cost for health insurance was $125.

2013: Second hip surgery. Once again out of my pocket $1500. Once again offered physical therapy with $25.00 deductible.
And again monthly cost for my insurance was still $125.

2016 Obamacare in full force:
My insurance rates grew to $425.00 per month.

Fast forward to 2018: I had a foot surgery. $25,000 out of my pocket (still making payments on that surgery)
I was offered physical therapy at $75.00 per session.

2019: My health insurance rates lowered to $298.00 UNDER TRUMP.

Not to mention my taxes lowered under Trump.

As you can see my life improved under Trump.

 

Aren't you the one who was always talking about how the county medically indigent plan he was on prior to the ACA was better than the private plan he bought in the marketplace subsequently?

 

A lot of people.

 

Look how well that's working out.

 

Yes, because it was pay as you go in accordance with your income. That system still exists.

https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

I went 7 years with no health insurance. I went to the County Health Center for regular stuff and the County Hospital if I needed anything else. Did I have to wait in line...yep. Did it suck...yep. But, I wasn't in a position for full time employment and company sponsored health care. Am I now...yep. I work hard for a Cadillac Health Plan at the age of 61 with disabilities. If I can still work after being run over by a 28,000 lb Armored Truck on the highway at 55 mph, for those that simply can't there is SSI Disability/Medicare. For those that won't, go wait in line at the County, you'll get care.

Obama Care really sucked. I actually had an Obama Care "Silver" plan. I live in a Rural area with a small/medium size hospital and 3 medical groups, 1 large and 2 small. The hospital accepted my policy but the 1 large medical group that staffs the hospital doctors does NOT. That means if I'm hospitalized my policy coverage's with deductible and yearly out of pocket applies to the Hospital's bill but not the Doctors who would be out of network and covered only 30%. Since the Doctors and Facilities in the area accept Obama Care policies from just 2 providers, the networks are very important. Provider #1's insurance covers a number of doctors in my area, but if I needed services like X-Ray, MRI and such I had to drive 45 miles down a mountain road if I didn't want to pay 70% of the bill. Provider #2's insurance covered a number of facilities in my area so if I needed services like X-Ray, MRI and such they are available locally, however if I want to see a doctor I had to drive 45 miles down a mountain road if I didn't want to pay 70% of the bill. With the Obama Crap plan, I have to make a 90 mile round trip for a stinking X-Ray. Since I live in the mountains, the road to the flat lands isn't always available so if I needed an X-Ray I'm just (*)(*)(*)(*) outta luck and have to pay the 70%. Two years ago I had a total hip replacement, my cost was the $100 hospital admission fee with my employer sponsored Cadillac Health Plan.

The Government needs to satay out of my health care, it's none of their business.

 

I asked......

You replied.....

Can you just answer the question?

 

Also what?

 

Per your experience, apparently publicly sponsored health plans work better than private marketplace plans.

 

Do you know anyone living in the inner city barrio's that do?

 

You 're confusing Obama Care with employer sponsored private marketplace plans. Obama Care was a joke at $90 a month and a $6000 deductible. It compensated doctors less than Medicare and slightly above Medicaid, re-read my experience with Obama Care. The "publicly sponsored health plans" that exist under the hrsa are better than Obama Care if you are low income/no income people.

 

ESI generally isn't an example of a marketplace, you can't buy into any employer plan you like. The majority of ESI is just employers setting aside money to pay medical claims for their employees; in cases where an employer is actually buying a fully insured product from an insurance company, it's still not much of a market because there's little if any consumer choice.

What you're calling Obamacare is the insurance marketplace in the U.S., where people shopping on their own can select their own plan from any option offered by private carriers in the open market. If your point is that people don't like buying their own plan and prefer to have someone else choose it and finance it for them, that may be! That's certainly how the single-payer people view the situation.

 

Also don’t want to eliminate private insuranxe

 

Your example is actually demonstrates small increases compared to many Americans. I work with premium and claim data every day and I can find a thousand plus examples like yours only literally at a factor of 5 times what you experienced.

 

Yes, one has to WORK to do that.

 

So what's your point?

There are two separate but not equal systems. If your in Medicaid (MediCal in Calif), you have to be seen specific doctors and facilities. Most likely not the ones you'd like go to. I think that's what rubs them the wrong way. Why should WE get excellent service quickly when we work for our health insurance and they have to wait because they don't work for theirs but want the same service. Universal Health Care gives crappier health care to folks that work hard for better care now, and more expedient care for those that don't or won't work for theirs. It's typical class envy, they want what you have without working for it.

https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

 

I like my plan and want to keep my plan.

No interest in paying more to receive less.

I repeat, No Interest.

 

No one working does.

 

Working doesn't allow you to buy into any employer plan you like.