Ammo Shortage?

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My son and I go out to the desert to shoot. Since most of our shooting is with revolvers and lever guns, I cast my own bullets and we can shoot as much as we want.

    I do hope things will get back to normal soon.
     
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    I bought OLN several weeks ago. It has soared to astonishing heights.
     
  3. Ddyad

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    Have never heard that.
    I doubt the people who spread urban legends have ever heard of "reloaded ammo".
     
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    "Out of Stock" isn't really helpful :)
     
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    ammunitiondepot.com. case of 5.56 about $350 plus shipping limit of one case per order. takes 5-7 days to ship.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    When I was in college I hunted and fished for subsistence and provided a fairly profitable nuisance animal extermination business for living money in the rural counties surrounding my university. I acquire my guns almost exclusively from farm estate sales, sometimes acquiring rifles with unusual chamberings, like a .35 Whalen, then unusual .22-250, and even a .22-4000. Back then I didn’t have the luxury, obviously of being able to order from the internet or acquiring through the gun stores in the area (one reason why The guns sold at sale in a price I could afford). Some of the cartridges required brass made from other cartridges like the .22-4000 being made from .303 as I seem to recall.
    During those years I was obsessed with accuracy and the search (young you know) for the perfect cartridge, so I was frequently building and testing loads, sometimes doing experiments that in hind sight, were stupidly dangerous.... a pattern when I was young and a wonder I didn’t Darwin out. Considering that Darwin comment, when I first got to school, I was given a .45 single action by a professor mentor of mine, along with a Lee field hand loading kit... being young, stupid and inexperienced ( my first try at reloading), if a standard load was powerful, a double load would be better right? Somehow, I still have my hands, but those early years set me on the path to a lifelong interest in firearms and ballistics, and the amazement I survived my youth (even experimented with making a lot of explosives from different elements and designs in those days... amazed I didn’t kill myself or end up living behind bars).
    I still reload, have learned a thing or two since, but I don’t do it for financial reasons.
    BTW, before coming to the US to go to college, I lived in Belfast 60’s-early 70’s. We could get guns, many of WWII vintage, and we had a sort of cottage industry of producing reloaded ammo for common ammo cartridges at the time, often using home made black powder (dirty sh** , not entirely reliable, particularly for any semi auto) and even homemade primers, and even had sorted how to reload .22 rimfire ammo. Hmmm, we were a bunch of Darwin candidates. But... given the times... it was considered an acceptable risk.
     
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    I've heard it, never seen proof offered though. But in today's climate why take chances with all these PC, "woke" prosecutors running amok? Best save the handloads for hunting and practice.
     
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    "Woke" prosecutors are like "woke" judges - they are crooked.
     
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    It's cost effective right now.

    Besides, price is not the only reason to reload.

    Accuracy and reliability is a predominant reason.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now if only I could find primers! A brick of small rifle primers is running $200. on gunbroker.
     
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    Since it looked like Biden won bare shelves have gotten barer around here. Glad I stocked up years age, nice and safe in surplus 50 cal. ammo cans.
     
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    sounds like even our ammo is outsourced overseas
     
  13. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Me too. I have plenty of ammo for my modern guns. I have been adding antique guns they just don't make ammo for anymore. The only thing I can't find is primers.

    I recently acquired an 18th century Blunderbuss so finding ammo will never be a problem. (Rocks, silverware, broken glass, nuts n bolts.)
     
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    The shortage is due to paranoid people who think they will need a cache of ammo. What for I have no idea.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    There are millions of new gun owners in the United States. The demand probably just increased.
     
  16. Nightmare515

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    Sort of, a lot of it does have to do with people buying up every damn thing they can find thinking that COVID was about to turn the country into a post apocalyptic wasteland and others thinking that a civil war is brewing. And plenty of others hording unsure if Biden was gonna win and make ARs illegal again.

    Our shelves have been bare here since March and the second they are restocked everything is gone within minutes. The ranges are actually barren with few folks out there plinking and I live in GUN country, EVERYBODY goes to the range all day long.

    Folks are just hording the ammo and while it was funny at first it's honestly starting to get annoying. I acquired a few boxes of 45-70 and I don't even own a 45-70, I use it to barter with other folks for ammo that I actually need.
     
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    Yeah I haven't been able to get to the range because ammo is so pricey. Even reloading supplies have shot up.
     
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    Same here, only thing I've been able to plink with at the range are my .22's simply because I have plenty of ammo and I have no real practical reason to "worry" if I run out of .22 and can't find anymore for a while. Hell I have a brand new shotgun that I've yet to fire because I can't even find target load around here. Even cowboy load .45 colt has been out of stock for the past 7 months here...it's a pistol cartridge warm loads for a single action revolver....who the hell is hording that?

    At this point I'm willing to pay a few more bucks for ammo if I could even find it. It's crazy because most of the firearm transactions here are done via our own version of a craiglist type thing and nobody is even selling ammo on there at the moment. Everybody really is just stockpiling everything waiting to see what happens.
     
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    maybe more ammo should be made in America?
     
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    I did a little research on it as I could not find 30-06 ammo for gun deer season.
    What I found is Covid had limited production.

    But I suspect, there was panic buying again by gun folks.
     
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    Actually have a carbine that shoots 45 colt. I'm surprised that how many there are out there. A lot of people who don't have a whole lot of knowledge about guns would probably lean more toward a revolver and I think this is probably a good idea because they're easier to operate generally speaking. So I get why 45 Colt has low.


    45 Colt has always been expensive as long as I've been shooting. That's actually why I started reloading.
     
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    Lots of Newbies buying overpriced ammo because they don't have any stocked up supplies and they don't know the proper cost of ammo. Since they do that, there is no reason for dealers to sell at normal prices-and distributors are jacking their prices up as well
     
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    Yup exactly. The other day somebody bought 3 boxes, 60 rounds, of Hornady 45-70 for 250 bucks on gunbroker lol...Somebody else on gunbroker just paid 3,700 bucks for a regular Marlin SBL 45-70...

    One of our local gun stores runs a Facebook page and a pretty heated argument broke out on there between them and customers regarding how much they were charging for boxes of .22lr. Basically they said look nobody has any ammo and if you check the big box store when they get some they are charging this much and we are charging this much now because we have some in stock and they don't.
     
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    The company laughably called "Cheaper than Dirt" was selling 50 rounds of PMC Bronze (Basic 115 grain FMJ) during the Sandyhook panic for 59.95 a box-after Trump won I was buying 1000 rounds of that stuff for 159 shipped. It was gouging pure and simple and while I cannot speak for that many people, I am a very well connected shooter who has at one time or another-represented some of the biggest gun dealers in SW Ohio, along with representing the Federal government and a couple Title II manufacturers (machine guns). And I hear from lots of shooters and NONE of them ever bought from CTD again. Now some places cannot help jacking up their prices. The place I normally shoot was selling TURKISH NATO SPEC ammo for 600 a case. yeah. But their cost was about 540 a case so that really isn't an outrageous markup. The importers and makers are trying to make as much as they can now
     
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    I have been reloading for years and have all the supplies I will ever need but I still check the local stores for factory ammo for my customers. Our local Scheels has been a bit of a bit or miss but they do get ammo and reloading supplies and they sell them at fair prices.
    In the past month I have bought brass cased 9mm for $11.99/box, bulk 22lr. @6-1/2 cents per round, and SSP at $3.49/c. They currently have a lot of "odd" calibers and 10mm, 6.5 Creedmore, 22mag, and 327 Federal are all on the floor with 100 round limits.

    It's out 5here if you are in the right place at the right time.
     

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