An appeal to Christan "conservatives"

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  1. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    When God set up Israel, He didn't give them a legislature, He didn't give them a king, He didn't even give them laws until after they showed a desire for them. When the church guys asked Jesus what the best law is, He answered, He didn't say "all the law is good", He said love God with all of you, and love your neighbor as you love yourself. Come on, let's get real. all sane adults know right from wrong. We don't need government to tell us what that is, and we don't need men to give us permission to enforce it.

    The law says don't kill and don't steal. But the first thing government has to do, in order to exist, is take your money and threaten to kill you.

    Scholars have discovered that governments are not necessary.

    Christians comprise about a fourth of the world. It would be easy for us to force these criminals to stop initiating force against everyone.

    So what are you gonna do? Are you gonna join me on the side of God, or are you gonna support the work of the devil?
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you support the child-killing racist régime occupying Palestine, you are certainly not any kind of Christian and are doing the work of the Devil, as you know.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Jews don't follow Jesus... are you suggesting... that we make policy... forcing Christian beliefs on a Jewish theocracy?

    I would ask that the Christian conservatives ignore this plea, and stay in observance of the constitution instead... yeah... kthxbi
     
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    Let's see, God... Constitution... God... Constitution... God... Hmm...

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    That's right. If you support a government, you support the devil.
     
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    I'll go with the devil.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah... God says to obey the laws of the land.
    Our government is bound to operate within the confines of the constitution, not go off crusading for Christ.

    Your willingness to go against the bible AND the constitution and wage wars out of bigotry is sad. You will find no support among any true conservative... or Christian I expect.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'I believe in God and I believe in the Devil. There's certainly a Devil, and he knows my name.'
    -Daniel Johnston
     
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    "There's certainly a devil, and he knows what beer I like."

    Alfalfa
     
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    Who's talking about war? I'm talking about stopping people from systematically breaking natural law, by dismantlement all western governments. It isn't Christian law that I want to enforce, Just natural law. Don't attack people, don't take their (*)(*)(*)(*), and don't commit fraud. No big deal.
     
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    Have you SEEN what "Christians" (or other human beings for that matter) actually DO, when they achieve any form of absolute power?

    We are dealing with HUMAN beings in any case. Better that none of us be completely autonomous, as a check/balance overall, IMO.
     
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    As a Conservative Christian---I'm more then a little confused on what your post is saying here. Anarchy perhaps?
     
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    What's "natural law"?
     
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    Don't worry about it. You're on the side of the devil. You don't need any information.

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    ..Yes.

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    I'm trying to take away all the power, not give it someone.
     
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    Wow. What happened to saving souls? Jesus dined with tax collectors and prostitutes, you won't even answer a question.

    You're a poor instrument of god's will.
     
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    Your soul is not my responsibility. Read your Bible.
     
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    I would like to support the devil but I know that no such entity exists. He's just another one of the sky fairies along with jesus, the easter bunny, santa, god, peter pan. Too bad though because if there was a devil of some kind we could all get behind him and support him. Think of the house cleaning we coult do on this planet alone!
     
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    Fortunately, you don't have to believe that the devil exists to oppose killing and stealing, so you can still join the good guys. It's a big tent kind of thing.
     
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    Where on earth did you get the idea I opposed killing and stealing. I'm all for it, including killing all puppies and kittens as well as babies. Satan bless you!
     
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    Okay. Can't win em all.
     
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    You think the Bible advocates Anarchy? Sorry guy or gal. It doesn't.

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    You think the Bible advocates Anarchy? Sorry guy or gal. It doesn't.
     
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    The bible opposes stealing and killing. Governments steal and kill. The Bible opposes governments. If you don't understand how life would be without government, that perfectly okay, most people don't. Here's some information:

    http://voluntarycompact.com/

    The site is pretty easy to use. If you want to know about roads, go to the roads page, if you want to know about defense, go to the defense page, and ect.
     
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    'Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards, there it enters the roots of the vines, to be changed into wine, a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy.'

    -Benjamin Franklin
     
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    I didn't get past the first page---which basically said that people would simply obey laws set up with no consequences because people are on the same page and want to obey laws. Not a realistic view. Its a Utopia that really is a power vacuum that allows something evil in to create the government you thought you were avoiding.

    If you think the Bible gives a message of anti-government---I dont' think you have really read it.

    Hate to be lazy...but this is better then what I could write, and already available..... http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-government.html
     

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