An Atheist view on life.

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  1. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    You know, some of those are not easy if you were a christian for many years than lost your faith and became an atheist. Some of those influences are going to be with you for a very long time, even if you don't believe, they're still going to affect you.

    I think it's much easier to believe in those if a person as never a Christian at all.
     
  2. alsos

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    I'm not sure where you get that God has given up. He has decided not to speak directly to us anymore. He put his plan in motion through Christ and is now letting things play out. We have everything we need to know. We either act on it or ignore it.
     
  3. alsos

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    IF you were a parent, you'd know you put certain things in place; certain standards, morals, and teachings. It's up to your child to use them or abandon them. Then there comes the point where you send your kid out in the world - they are on their own. If they decided to reject you completely, that is on them, not you. The door is always open, and it's up to the 'kid' to come back in the door. This is not giving up, it's letting the kid make the decision.

    God is NOT going to go after everyone and pull them in. It's up to you to go in.
     
  4. Colonel K

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    That's child abandonment, not to mention eternal childhood for the shepherd's flock.
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently....this God/Parent has given up in the past with a vengeance...he killed his own kids because they pissed him off.
     
  6. alsos

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    What you and so many others fail to understand is that:

    1) This is God’s creation. He is allowed to do with His creation as He sees fit. Who are WE to question what God does with His own creation as if we know better.

    2) God is in control of all life. What He does with these human bodies is of no consequence to the souls within them. People that don’t believe in this thinking have limited themselves to believing our flesh and bones is life itself and God destroying THAT is evil. God may destroy the flesh, but He does not destroy the soul. The soul is the LIFE that would co-exist with God, not the flesh.

    Do I expect any of you atheists or non-believers to accept this or even remotely try to understand it? Absolutely not! I expect you call me crazy and delusional. That’s fine. I expect it from those that can’t see what Christians see.
     
  7. FoxHastings

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    No, I don't understand such nonsense.
     
  8. alsos

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    Do you understand the String Theory? Is that nonsense because you don't understand it?

    Do you understand the structure of jazz composition? Is it nonsense because you don't understand it?
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    No and no and I don't know what YOUR post has to do with real life actual things like jazz....

    Maybe I should rephrase, "I don't understand people believing such nonsense as yours"



    And why can't you address my points as I addressed yours?????
     
  10. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay then....that being the case....this God dude is an evil dictator with a serious anger/ego problem.
     
  11. alsos

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    And there are people that don't understand how people can like nonsense life jazz. But to someone that loves jazz, it's not nonsense. You may think God is fictitious, but the idea of God is not fictitious. For those that believe in that 'idea', it's far from nonsense.
     
  12. FreshAir

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    when all else fails, don't hold God to higher or even the same standards you would anyone else, hold him to lower standards and try to justify it


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  13. CourtJester

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    Comparing God to string theory is a very apt comparison. Both are totally hypothetical with no evidence to support belief in either theory.
     
  14. FoxHastings

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    No, the "IDEA" of god isn't fictitious, god is. And no matter what you believe , you posted nonsense.

    Address the points in post 57....I addressed your points....
     
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    Anger? From your point of view I wouldn't expect you to hold any other opinion. It's funny that someone that doesn't believe claims to understand the heart of God - that you could possibly know that what He has done was out of anger. Was it out of anger that God created the universe and the life in it? Are you the one that gets to pick and choose which parts of God's actions are acceptable and which aren't?

    Ego? He's God. If God stood before you today and said "I am God, the one that created everything and is in control of everything, and knows everything..." You would call that 'ego'. I would call it the truth. Ego requires that someone is behaving in a manner that exaggerates or bloats who they are.
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    Ya, he has his followers to do that. And it is weird to worship cruelty......
     
  17. FreshAir

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    except the guy you call Jesus never even went by the name "Jesus", would it not be more respectful to use the man's real name?


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  18. tecoyah

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    Yes....as matter of fact I am.

    I get to choose who I associate with and whom I find acceptable....just as you do.

    The "God" you have portrayed in not just unacceptable....he is to be avoided at all costs.
     
  19. alsos

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    So, goinf on Fox's standard, because we don't understand them, they should be dismissed as having any bit of remote credibility.
     
  20. CourtJester

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    I did not say anything about understanding either God or String Theory. As a point of fact I do understand both. What I said was there is no objective evidence to support either theory which is absolutely true. That is why String Theory is a theory and belief in God is an act of faith.
     
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    I am addressing your point in post 57. You posted one sentence.

    You call what I post anything you want; that is strictly based on your belief that there is no God. So, in counter to that, what you post in your refutation to God is nonsense. You are refuting thousands of years of history and trillions of believers over that history. For those that believe in the IDEA of God, this is directly connected to the reality of an actual God. You can use all the descriptive nouns to marginalize what Christians believe, and it changes nothing in history, and it changes nothing in the minds of the 2 billion believers worldwide.

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    Nice of you to try to change the subject with a game of semantics. Got anything of substance to add?

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    You missed the point.

    Actually, no you don’t. You may, in your own mind, decide what is acceptable to YOU. God will still do what God does regardless of what you think about it.
     
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    So, believing those things exist is not nonsense or it is nonsense... I mean based on your contention that there is really no evidence of their existence? If you believe in the String Theory, aren't you putting a level of faith into that belief, devoid of concrete evidence of its existence?
     
  23. FoxHastings

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    7 sentences........ and I have no intention of changing what passes for the minds of believers....so I don't know why you brought that up unless it's because you can't address any of my other points.
     
  24. FoxHastings

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    Do not speak for me especially when you have no idea what I said.
     
  25. CourtJester

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    I did not say I believe in either God or String Theory. Essentually both are theorys that are attempting to explain things that are not totally understood or objectively demonstrated. Belief is different than understanding. Belief for many of us comes when evidence is found to support a theory.
     

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