An Atheist view on life.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    They have those rose colored glasses....
     
  2. Prof_Sarcastic

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    I wouldn't say so, for two main reasons:
    1) "The more you have, the happier you will be"? I doubt that reflects common atheist beliefs.
    2) "but with god, everything is fine"? Why would that be an atheist belief?
     
  3. dairyair

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    So the muslims have it right? The jews have it right? The christians have it right? Hindu? etc?
     
  4. dairyair

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    Can we make a choice, ever, that isn't already known by God?
    Isn't our choices known before we make them? Can we deviate from those known choices, IE, God didn't know we'd choose something different.
     
  5. domer76

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    Nope. Not close
     
  6. dairyair

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    And the jews are the ones who have it right. It is their God. Christians got it wrong.

    Not to many posts ago, you said we all get to choose. Now you say God is in control, we don't choose?

    What if they are/were christians and see it differently. Out from under the mind control? What if they are a believer in the same god, different religion? What if they believe in a completely different God?
     
  7. crank

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    Dontcha know, SPECIAL christians have SPECIAL MAGIC vision. No humans but them have it - of any other faith, or even the wrong flavour of christianity. When you have this special magic vision, you can read god's mind. You can also find really comical (to those not in possession of the magic vision) justifications for your worship of a monster.
     
  8. crank

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    The very first thing a creator must do - and then keep doing - is RESPECT his or her creation. We respect our kids because their innocence earns it. We continue to respect them even when innocencr is lost and they may not earn it. And crucially, we ACT on that respect. We dont indulge in a huffy silence like big babies when our kids 'let us down'. We own our part in their stumble.

    The rest of your post is sicko death cult crap. How you can buy into such dark stuff a d still look in the mirror is anyone's guess.
     
  9. Incorporeal

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    So now you presume the authority to make demands of God? Do you think He will cater to your whimsical and inferior demands?
     
  10. crank

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    I'm talking about the standard to which I hold human creators. Clearly a much higher standard than that which you hold your god to.

    If your standards for GODS are so low that human standards seem lofty by comparison (which they must do, for you to respond as you did), then you might want to reconsider your position.
     
  11. Incorporeal

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    We weren't talking about my standards, we were talking about your standards. Keep the record straight.
     
  12. crank

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    Too little, too late.

    You walked straight into that one :p
     
  13. Incorporeal

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    Only to get you to admit that the standards you used are only and merely private standards that amount to nothing more than mere opinion. You walked right straight into that one.
     
  14. crank

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    Feeble, even for you.
     
  15. Incorporeal

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    Only because yours was so feeble that a lot was not required to accomplish your admission or being opinionated.
     
  16. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As virtually everything you believe is nothing but your own opinion, and you portray it as fact....me thinks you are not one to talk.
     
  17. Incorporeal

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    don't you even realize that the word 'virtual' or 'virtually' immediately redirects the subject matter to one in which a person gives consideration to that which is subjective in nature, and is also applicable to the beliefs of everyone.... even your own? Me thinks that you allow words to pour out of your mind like a putrid and vile substance that your body rejects due to the reactionary conditioning of your body by your mind.

    "vir·tu·al (vûr[​IMG]ch[​IMG]-[​IMG]l)adj.1. Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual fact, form, or name: the virtual extinction of the buffalo.
    2. Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination. Used in literary criticism of a text."

    "virtually (ˈvɜːtʃʊəlɪ) adv1. in effect though not in fact; practically; nearly"
     
  18. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As usual....you decide to sideline into something that allows you to avoid discussion...though the insulting nature is somewhat new.
     
  19. Incorporeal

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    Aren't you the one who first mentioned 'virtually'? It seems that you are the initiator of that thought in this thread. So, my comments are not a 'sideline' topic, but rather is in context to something that you placed in the discussion. As for the "insulting nature".... no worse than your insulting innuendo beginning with the same verbiage "me thinks......".
     
  20. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never mind...as usual.
     
  21. Incorporeal

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    So you can't argue with the 'truth'? I thought so.
     
  22. crank

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    Just to remind you of my OPINION:

    If your standards for GODS are so low that human standards seem lofty by comparison (which they must do, for you to respond as you did), then you might want to reconsider your position.


    you can run, but you can't hide.
     
  23. Prof_Sarcastic

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    How did things get so poorly off topic? Lol, as if I even need to ask.
     
  24. crank

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    :D

    what I'd like to know, is how I managed to let Senor Websters drag me off course. not enough coffee?
     
  25. Prof_Sarcastic

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    Sometimes it's fun to point out just how very, laughably bad at trolling some people can be.
     

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