An Atheist view on life.

no one but you thinks content is changed to avoid your rapier-like debating skills, Incorporeal.

 

But you don't deny having changed the goal posts.

 

I wish you cared more about the indignity of your position. Your god has left you reduced to grubbing around in the dirt, in the futile hope that the occasional grain you pick up will distract from the elephant in the room.

 

Now that is a complete false statement. My God has not left me. All of my needs are met... physical, financial, social, emotionally....and even intellectually. What more could a guy my age ask for?

 

Ignorance....must indeed be bliss.

 

Do you know that to be a genuine, real, physically tangible fact?

 

Atheist don't believe in GOD,
but they believe in Science.
Sad to say but still they are a believer and I think only anti GOD.

 

Yes, but it's the probabilities that will get you. Just because someone can think about God doesn't make it real.

 

Who said anything about making 'it real'? Not me. I was addressing the claim that atheists never think about God. Clearly they do, else they would not be able to mention the word 'god' or type the word 'god'. They really do think about God, even though they may want to deny that they think about 'God'. Here look at it again..... God God God God God God God God God God ..... now if you read that or even processed it mentally as visual images of the word 'God' then you thought about 'God'.

 

The claim that atheists don't think about the existence of a god is patently false. As an atheist, I bounce that concept around in my mind quite frequently. That I did think about that subject to the degree that I did (and do) brought me to the conclusion that there is no god. At least the Christian concept of god. And, as I read topics like this, observe the world around me, and continually question the possibility, it only serves to confirm my original conclusion.

 

I'm sorry---but apparently the Atheist View on Life obsessively runs on the rejection of believing in God. If I put out a view of life that revolved around my rejection of baseball cards---mentioning baseball cards in every line ----then my entire belief system revolves around baseball cards.

 

And that is your right to believe in that manner. Have at it. On the other hand, I (needless to say) agree that even Atheists think about 'God'.

 

FAIL!

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LIFE, not WILL.

 

Yeah, the thought that your prophets might have been delusional schizophrenics might be a little discomforting.

Sorry, but Christians invoke the concept of free will all the time. It's a great way to rationalize cruelty, injustice, disease and so on in the context of an all-powerful, all-knowing god.

 

I do get that but what you don't seem to get is that everything it says is entirely Christian. Now if you want to talk about the people who call themselves Christians but don't adhere to the Christian faith, as in they take the liberty to decide what to accept and what to ignore, that they reject the traditional idea of Christianity, then why are you upset about the op? Because the OP Specifically says a "Christians View On Life".

If Christianity as a religion can mean anything to anyone then it means nothing. The value of the religion must come from whatever standards it's origins created. There is nothing disingenuous about pointing to those standards.

 

You left out the 'all loving' God. An all-loving God allows us make our decisions rather than make them for us like puppets. If God has free will, and we were made in His image, why wouldn't He have instilled this in us as well?

 

Such an illogical superbnaturalist interpretation of a basic idea. Unbelief is the default position. Debaters are merely emphasizing that point.

 

Can anyone make a choice that god doesn't already know ahead of time?

 

When I drop an object to the ground, I know ahead of time it's going to hit the ground. Does that mean I determined it would hit the ground? No, the laws of nature determined it. When you get to know someone, and you learn they have a bad temper and can be provoked to anger easily. When you do something you know will make them mad, did you make them get mad?

Just because God knows something is going to happen doesn't mean he MADE it happen; it just means He has a deeper understanding of our nature than we do.

 

Thanks. I did leave out all-loving. And that concept validates my point even more. What kind of all-loving, all-powerful god allows such tragedy to occur on such a massive scale? Certainly not the Christian god we are told about. And a god that controls all and pre-ordains all of the universe, robs us of free will. That's what I am referring to on the free will "escape clause" for your god. An excuse, or copout if you may, for man's inhumanity towards his own fellow man.

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You are not an all-powerful, omnipotent being who created the reality of gravity. You tell us he IS the law of nature.

Fail.

 

No, the atheist view of life simply ignores all the infinite number of things that do not exist. I spend no more time rejecting your imaginary god than I spend rejecting pink teapots orbiting Jupiter. Reality is quite sufficient to keep me interested.

 

What kind of loving wouldn’t allow tragedy to happen? Did God put us here to learn nothing? Do you really learn anything when everything is good all the time?

I believe God IS the law of nature. Nature and its laws do not exist without God; so why wouldn’t God be the laws of nature?

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Does dark matter exist?

 

I happen to think Scientology is complete lunacy. However, I am not calling for the eradication of Scientology or Scientologists. I'm not going to hang out at some Scientology message board and camp; waiting to pounce on unsuspecting Scientologists, and let them know they are lunatics for believing in Scientology. I don't do this, because quite frankly, I don't care. I don't care what people believe in, as long as they are not forcing these beliefs on someone else.

The issue I have is the militant form of atheism which thinks everyone should think like they do; and in fact the World would be a better place if they did.
They are right and everyone else is wrong, a definitive, unarguable fact....THERE IS NO GOD...form the atheistic point of view.

I've alluded already to the great experiment of Communism under which approximately 100 million people have thus far been killed, starved, imprisoned and millions more stripped of their basic human rights. A central tenet of Communism is militant atheism, it is a core belief that religion be eradicated, that religion, that a belief in God is a threat to the state.

People kill in the name of atheism. These are the facts...and I'm not saying all atheists want to do away with religion and/or adhere to Marxism...however much like Islam, as not all Islamics are terrorists; more often all terrorists are indeed Islamic.

So while all atheists are not bad people, it just so happens that some of the most evil, most vile, most barbaric people to ever walk about this Earth...were indeed militant atheists. Y'all just have no track record to proclaim the World would be better off if everyone thought like you do.

Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot,, Mao Zedong...
Communism has been the greatest social engineering experiment we have ever seen. It failed utterly and in doing so it killed over 100,000,000 men, women, and children, not to mention the near 30,000,000 of its subjects that died in its often aggressive wars and the rebellions.

Communism begins with atheism.

If the militant atheist is going to condemn all religion based upon the destruction waged in it's name...one can easily do the same for atheism.

Atheism has been one of the the most destructive thought processes to ever infect human civilization.

Atheism does not, historically, benefit humankind.

 

So long as we understand (we do, don't we?) that "dark matter" is a term used to describe a set of observed gravitational phenomena. It could, without any loss of meaning, be called "graviwhatsis" or "this-is-odd". And yes, these observations exist.

 

I find this attitude entirely reasonable.

This reminds me of the old joke where the mother tells her kid "stop pulling the cat's tail" and the kid replies "I'm not pulling it, I'm only holding on to it. The CAT is doing all the pulling!" The "militant atheist" is one who insists on standing perfectly still in the middle of the religious river. From the river's perspective, the unmoving person SEEMS to be fighting upstream, and trying to "force everyone else to move upstream" as well.

This sort of claim really undermines your position. Vicious totalitarian states represent abuse of power, whether or not they lay claim to some religion. The Nazis gassing Jews wore belt buckles that said "God is with us!" But the purpose of killing Jews wasn't religious, it was all about power. I notice you don't mention some of the most vicious African genocidal governments, which just happen to be Christian. You are barking up the wrong tree.

No, this is simply not true. Atheists kill, to be sure. They kill for selfish reasons, they kill for their country, just like anyone else. But they do not kill "in the name of atheism".

Your attempts to misrepresent (and I mean WILDLY, irresponsibly misrepresent) cherry-picked cases in order to demonize what you fear, does you no credit. You seem to lump atheism in with every religion you fear, as though atheism were a religion itself. But in truth, of the thousands of gods humans believe in, atheists simply believe in one less god than you do. Their attitude toward your god is the same as your attitude toward Shiva - not even on the radar. But devout believers in Shiva could easily point to all the atrocities done by NON believers in Shiva, and blame every atrocity on failure to accept Shiva. In which case, they'd be identical to what you're doing - and just as wrong.