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An inconvenient truth

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Guno, Apr 6, 2017.

  1. JohnConstantine

    JohnConstantine Active Member

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    Co-signed.

    The idea that slavery and imperialism was monopolised by whites betrays a deep ignorance of history. It's basically what people think if they haven't really looked into it and just relied on primary school teachers.
     
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    clearly you havent read enough history as the slave industry of the american industrial "revolution" was the one and only time that slavery was purely based on skin colour where being black was all you needed to be. the whites justified this by deliberately misinterpreting bible passages where it says that blacks are to be servants for eternity because they sinned. of course we now know, since the people can now access biblical scripture that this passage doesnt actually exist. it does have something similar but it doesnt say black it says canaan. it doesnt even matter who sinned because all of the israelites were black anyway
     
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    nonesense. saying otherwise shows a willful ignorance of history as we should all know by now that whites are the only ppl to practice chattel slavery, a most horrific form of slavery but lets sweep the carpet under the dust, dont want our empire to go bankrupt huh huh
     
  4. JohnConstantine

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    Arabs routinely castrated African slaves my friend, supposedly because of some superstitious fear of their sexual prowess; most men died right then and there. Going East as a slave wasn't a walk in the park, and the slaves weren't all African either, decent amount of them were Europeans. Maybe 1 - 1.5 mill across North Africa and the Middle East -- that seems to be the more obvious omission from the school books. Slavery was more of a global institution which persisted for tens of thousands of years in a variety of forms.

    Don't think anyone is sweeping it under the carpet... I mean you struggle not to hear of the transatlantic slave trade by the time you're say, 6 years old.

    Speaking of modern times what might be more of a cover up is Mauritania, which supposedly houses around 500,000 black slaves today, under Arab tutelage. No one seems to give two f*cks about that, because it kind of goes against the narrative that the only people capable of bad behaviour are pale.
     
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    the old chestnut, when white slavery is brought up, mention arab slavery. way to deflect son but you missing one important thing. the inconvenient truth, the person being enslaved here. argue all you like about who is the worse, arab or european, until you are blue in the face but you cannot deny that the white man is the only one guilty of having a race based slave industry that categorically had blacks and only blacks as the slave.
    we are not talking about the arab slave trade though are we, because we are not in arabia, we are in Europe/america/thewest, so here we talk about european slave trade FIRST! THEN, when we have dealt with that, taken responsibility, paid compensation etc THEN we can talk about what happend in ARABIA. I can talk about Arabia but you cant until you have accepted that chattel slavery and race based industrial slavery was unique to the white man culture.

    Now...stop defelcting
     
  6. Ritter

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    You should leave your Amerocentric worldview aside and instead see the world as a whole. All I did was pointing out the very fact that the 1400's was an era when colonialism, imperalism and slavery were universal norms. Everyone powerful engaged in it and it was not at all like public school often makes of it, an exclusively white phenomenon.

    Important to remember however, is that it was the whites who were first to oppose and abolish slavery and in GB, the peopke themselves realised it was immoral and destroyed the system from the inside - the British navy bombed it's own slaveships and another interesting fact is that the British colonial power was relatively friendly compared to Spain and Portugal (not to mention genocidal Belgium and France). One of the reasons there are so many Africans in South America is that Africans were mistreated and died from diseases and the Portuguese and Spaniards had to bring in new ones.

    Whites actually even left Europe for a better life in Rhodesia(!!!!)

    Your perspective on history is biased, one-sided and skewed.,
     
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    Well hang on I thought we were saying that whites monopolised slavery, and imperialism (which is absurd)... so you'll have to either drop that statement or argue for it. So far your argument seems to go like this:

    'Clarks monopolised shoe making!'

    'But Nike made a lot of shoes.'

    'Look we're not here to talk about Nike OK, what I'm saying is that Clarks monopolised the shoes that they made.'

    'Oh.'

    Now we're just saying that we're not here to talk about other forms of slavery... is that it?

    And no it wasn't only blacks as slaves actually, white men enslaved Native Americans, Asians, other whites (about 300,000 Irish were shipped off to the Caribbean to work on plantations), unfortunately blacks happened to have more longevity under horrendous conditions and therefore were preferable to slave owners.
     
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    Because we were discussing immigration policy, and only whites are able to maintain the uniquely thriving and dynamic Western nations of the world.
     
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    Ok you don't like being in second place. I get it
     
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    No, we just don't like third world crap holes or the idea of becoming one.
     
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    Or being behind the asians. No, no, no....that would be DISCRIMINATION. LOL
     
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    Well duuuuuuuh.
     
  13. Esau

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    youre confusing servitude for slavery. european slavery was unique in the fact that it was race based slavery. this in itself makes it the most horrific and unjustifiable sadistic practice ever known to man. it is also sickening that these sub human pieces of trash called slavers are venerated and idolised in american society by whites.

    the slave industry of the american industrial "revolution" was the one and only time that slavery was purely based on skin colour where being black was all you needed to be. the whites justified this by deliberately misinterpreting bible passages where it says that blacks are to be servants for eternity because they sinned. of course we now know, since the people can now access biblical scripture that this passage doesnt actually exist. it does have something similar but it doesnt say black it says canaan. it doesnt even matter who sinned because all of the israelites were black anyway
     
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    youre confusiong servitude to slavery. here take a peek and tell me the difference.

    b slaves.jpg irish servs.jpg
     
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    The ones on top haven't arrived at their destination yet. Black people held in slavery within the U.S. were paid wages and lived better off than their white (blue collar) counterparts.
     
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    What a load of crap. Islam enslaved people based upon religion. Blacks enslaved other Blacks on the basis of tribalism. Fixed it for you. Next.
     
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    What!!!
     
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    Thank fully, n the West, slavery is a thing of the best and thank Liberalism for that. :)

    In Africa, "Arabia" and other Third World countries it is still legal and breathing.
     
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