An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter

Huh? You really need to stop and look at yourself.

 

Sure, you have the liberal organizations concerned with facts, then you have Rupert’s holdings concerned with making up s.h.i.t.

 

Tell that to the rest of the conservatives. They think the poor are after free stuff.

 

He same sick smoker who work for years paying taxes to cover old white guys with prostate cancer. That’s how health insurance works,

 

People ? You mean republicans . You can’t vote unless you register first. You still can’t vote on voting day until your name matches the voting roll.
if you try, you commit a felon. How much more of a deterrent do you need, then to brand a person a convicted felon for life.,

There have been no instances of wide spread fraud except by republicans. Why should the rest if us and minorities be inconvenienced because many republicans are dishonest and try to suppress and subvert the electron process. We have a Republican President, Moscow Mitch and the Republican lead DOJ trying to subvert the election process.

These are all felonious actions by REPUBLICANS.

 

Don't have to make up the democrats long history of election fraud. If Johnson hadn't stolen his senate election he never would have been president and we may never have had the Vietnam experience we did. Elections matter and honest elections are essential.

 

You should really work to change how your state does it.
If you are concerned about it.

I find it odd your state and polling center don't ask you to prove who you are. What state is this that is so irresponsible?

 

Hmm, There's no doubt some of Sanders supporters were turned off by the Democratic Primaries or was it the DNC and state Democratic Party leaders rigging the primaries in Hillary's favor. Take your pick. I know I never gave either VP candidate a second thought. Now if it had been Kaine/Clinton instead of Clinton/Kaine, Kaine probably would have had my vote. CNN did conduct an exit poll among third party voters asking if there were only two candidates, Trump and Clinton, no third party candidate, who would you have voted for. 19% answered Trump, 16% Hillary, 65% said they wouldn't have voted. So much was their disliked for both major party candidates they went to the polls to vote against both of them, for a candidate they didn't know, that had no chance of winning, no media attention, no way to get their message out, what they stood for, no money, no name recognition, etc. Other than being a third name on the ballot that wasn't Trump nor Clinton.

I think a lot of third party voters were just plain disgusted with the choices provided by both major parties. How that fits into her theory, I'm not sure.

Percentage of third party voters in 2016 6%, 2012 1.5%, 2008 1.2%, 2004 1.0%. Independent especially disliked both major party candidates. 4% of Republicans voted third party, 3% of democrats while 12% of independents voted third party. Trump won the independent vote 46-42 over Hillary with 12% voting third party. Some 9 million voters.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

2020 provides an ideal chance for the Democrats. Knowing right off the bad 42% voted for Clinton while another 12% disliked both Trump and Clinton. That 12% dislikes Trump and I don't see much change of mind among them. They're wide open to vote Democratic if the Democrats nominate the right candidate and if they do, landslide for the Democrats. But who's the right candidate? That for the Democrats to figure out.

As one who voted third party in 2016, I was totally disgusted with both, I won't be voting for Trump in 2020. But I'm not an automatic for the democratic nominee either. My vote depends on who they nominate. I have no problem voting against both or for a third party candidate if I dislike both major party candidates.

On the lighter side of things, this reminds me of a joke going around in 1988 when Bush/Quayle vs. Dukakis/Bentsen. It went like this, "do I vote for Dukakis and hopes he dies or do I vote for Bush and hope he lives." Okay, kind of distasteful I know. But it points to the fact that quite a lot of Americans thought Loyd Bentsen was the best candidate for the presidency and Bentsen if at the top of the ticket, probably would have won. No way to prove that since it didn't happen, but Bentsen topped the other three candidates, he just happened to be placed on the ticket as VP. This goes back to my Kaine/Clinton ticket and my probably vote for Kaine instead of a third party candidate. In 1988, I did vote Bush/Quayle only because I really disliked Dukakis and was willing to take the chance Bush would live through his term.

 

You have no poof. We’re watching in real time, Trump and Russia. We’re watching in real time, all our intel agencies giving evidence. We read the facts and read the prosecution of republicans in Carolina. Where is the evidence of any government investigation agency who supports what you say about Johnson........NONE, NOTHING, NADA, NIX....

 

Huh. The media just took the lead from every intel agency in the US. You choose to believe the orange pumpkin, the perpetual liar.

 

The hoax that Trump conspired with Russia.

 

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

 

Why do they need to present a voter ID. They just have tell the intake poll worker the correct name the intake worker has on the registration roll.
Are you saying anyone can make up a name and be given a ballot. You’ve never voted ? What haven’t you then voted for someone four times if you think it’s so easy and safe ?

 

Sayin' that no voter ID leads to
the deceased, VOTING!


Chicago & Texas
1960 JFK / NIXON !

 

Really ? You are saying in states that have no voter IDs, voting is lower.

 

Complete ABSENCE of any substance in that response duly noted FTR.

 

Where I used to live a person said the name of his street, was directed to the right poll worker, then the number. They used to guess your name based on the persons listed. Any man who knew my address might have voted in my place, but only once.

 

Interesting that you bring up Quayle because I always saw him as the beginning of the lowering of the presidential bar by the GOP. Next came Bush jr who was Quayle with name recognition and nothing else of any value to offer the nation. Now we have the criminal IMPOTUS and I sincerely hope that there is no one lower than him out there.

OTOH Dems come in two flavors, faithful (Carter and Obama) and faithless (FDR, JFK and Clinton).

I am willing to tolerate someone screwing around providing it does NOT affect their job performance but I am NOT willing to tolerate the kinds of gross INCOMPETENCE that is apparent in Bush jr and the criminal IMPOTUS.

The former damages the reputation of the individual in the Oval office while the latter causes HARM to We the People. That is how I decide on who gets my vote.

 

I was registered as a democrat in two states... In my twenties. I've been an independent since.

I have never pulled a straight party ticket in my life. My votes are based on the job that's open. I have a pretty good idea what each party will bring to the job. If I think the dog catcher needs more money, I vote for the D. If I think the railroad commissioner is spending too much money, I'll vote against him irrespective of his party. I'm very fond of L judges. And so on.

So swing voter? meh.
Independent, yes.

 

You already admitted the NY Times got it right. Johnson stole his senate election. It's fact.

 

Not me. I admitted nothing.

 

Laughable....Gussing names ? Ha ha ha ha absolutely silly.
Some one is going to routinely march into a polling both and guess a name off a mail box....just to commit a felony, punishable by jail time and a big fine and have it permanently on his record so he can’t get a plethora of jobs and permits for the rest of his life.. just give one vote out of millions...to Hillary. That is an illusion of the highest magnitude. When voting, they have poll watchers who can challenge any voter, just by asking questions from their registration material.....it’s like a computer pass word.....you do know what that is right. .

 

Ha ha...nope, never did.
I suppose all the “grassy knoll” books and 911 tower collapse conspiracy books are real too, just because some guy gets his book published.....rubbish.

 

Yup, Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin, George Bush and now Trump.....all these people are uninformed lackeys easily swayed by corporate money because really, they don’t believe in shared power and science ,