Ancient Stone Works/Megaliths

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  1. Llewellyn Moss

    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

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    Stone constructions of the ancients are certainly interesting and examples can be found all over the planet. Construction styles are often very similar. I've posted this video from a Russian fellow who compiles fantastic images of these structures. Some are merely old, some very ancient and some perhaps..."pre-flood".

     
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    Gobekli Tepe has forced anthropologists to change their minds on the rise of civilization, given the age of Gobekli Tepe. We seem to like to pile stones like bees building a beehive. And for some reason, we were attracted to really big and heavy stones. With very primitive tools. Of course we are told our ancient ancestors were just as intelligent as we are today, but technology requires obtaining specific knowledge and it is accumulated and added to. And it has to be passed on. Any disruption in this chain, from natural disasters or astronomical events can set knowledge that is passed on back, or lost completely and we start all over again.
     
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    Obviously there was no "Flood".
    "Chunks of volcanic rubble stick up from the stepped hillside (pictured), which is considered sacred by the Sundanese people who live locally. Geologist Dr Danny Hilman thinks the reason the site is so revered is that it is an ancient pyramid which was built between 9,000 and 20,000 years ago"

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    That's why I put it in quotes. Certainly there seems to have been an catastrophic event in recent past, 13,000 years ago, which wiped out human history.
     
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    If history was wiped out we would not have it...There was however an "Event" that has been taking place since around that 13000 year mark. The last Ice Age ended and sea levels have been rising ever since.
     
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    Well tec, the fact is that it wasn't passed down, it has had to be rediscovered and often interpreted. The history we know is very limited.
     
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    Yet these "Rediscoveries" are in direct contradiction to the Bible(s) and some of them in fact point to the stories said Bible(s) were created from...including Noahs Ark being an interpretation of Sumerian myth. Scientific understanding of nature and our world then put the death nell on any "Miracles" being in any way possible in the rational mind.
     
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    I can appreciate that. The pyramids of Giza are good example of what you are saying. Official Egyptology was minted in the 1800's and the history of the structures had to fit into the 6000 year biblical timeline for social and political reasons. Though evidence suggests these buildings are considerably older.
     
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    Before 13,000 years ago.
    Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the years of the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars - Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia, Hyperborea, Zamora with its dark-haired women and towers of spider-haunted mystery, Zingara with its chivalry, Koth that bordered on the pastoral lands of Shem, Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, Hyrkania whose riders wore steel and silk and gold. But the proudest kingdom of the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west.

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    Before that there was the time of Atlantis and before that the time of Mu.

    Moi :oldman:
     
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    Any sufficiently developed technology is indistinguishable from magic, or so Arthur Clarke said. Many of the myths, stories in the Bible came from other cultures, other times. We assume some came from say, the Sumerian culture, but we must not discount that these could have preceded even the Sumerian culture and they borrowed them as well. Of course academia doesn't buy into the idea that even earlier civilizations existed prior to the rise of civilization in Mesopotamia, lost to some cataclysm, and yet Gobekli Tepe has thrown a wrench in the gears in more ways than one and who knows what still lies beneath the dirt in that location. What lies beneath the rising seas beginning as the ice receded and oceans rose? What would be left of any civilization covered over by sheets of grinding ice a couple miles thick? What lies beneath the ice sheets covering the land mass at the southern pole?

    There is even some questioning as to the age of the Sphinx, given what looks like rain erosion that would have happened 20 thousand years ago before that area was desert.
     
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    One interesting thing about anthropology is all the similarities.

    For example, almost every culture on the planet has a flood myth. From the Middle East to Europe, India, China, even the Americas. But that does not mean they are the same flood. But floods are often one of the most long lasting and extensive disasters people have faced, and often leave long lasting cultural scars.
     
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    Gobekli Tepes is a couple thousand years older that it was thought when agricultural villages were established in asia minor. As to what remains to be archeologically discovered, lets hope there is lots more.


    BTW, the sphinx didn't need water/rain to erode it at all. Sand storms and wind born grit over 3,000 years will do that job quite effectively.
     
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    By Crom! I knew it was all true.
     
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    There was no flood.

    It is a Mesopotamian myth, where it used to flood every year.
     
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    Easter Island is fascinating.

    Stonehenge is also fascinating.
     
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    I was somewhat awed when I first stood in front of some of the Mayan pyramids in Guatemala...All I could think of was whoever built those knew where their next meal was coming from...
     
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    Yes. Not a flood, more of a massive land displacement, similar to Massive Earth Crust Displacement.
    The seas didn't rise, the lands sank. It's all relative.

    And

    Circa 10,000 BC the most civilized places on Earth were by shorelines. Then the end of the last major Ice Age and the resulting rising sea levels submerged their cities. Survivors knocked back to the stone age ;) were now hunter gatherers or they did not survive. The pottery maker who made his sustenance via his pottery skills was no doubt the first sort to disappear.
    We do agree the fresh water Black Sea had peoples living along its' shorelines when it suddenly was inundated with salt water and rising water levels. Yes, We agree.
    I do not claim it happened like some tsunami as opposed to steadily rising tides.
    But, it did happen. The most civilized of peoples flooded out. No international aid.

    What part of this scenario do we disagree.
    And do you think those flood displaced peoples back in 10,000 BC created too much CO2? :)
    Thereby ending the last great Ice Age?

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g

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    Atavisms happen
    psst, that means genetic throw backs
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Cave evidence indicates sea levels were higher during the Ice Age.
     
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    Or land shifts?
     
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    Not likely since it has been observed in caves in different parts of the world reflecting the same unexpected phenomenon during the same time frame . The massive quantities of ice just displaced water such that it had fewer places to hang out.
     
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    If you believe that and don't buy into land shift,
     
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    No they do not as this in not possible and caves would be underwater if it were. Perhaps you could provide data to verify your interesting claim?
     
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