Ancient Stone Works/Megaliths

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If you believe that and don't buy into land shift,
please explain Beringia and Doggerland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia​

Explain, please. And please use Small Words.
Tropic is a lot of Earth. Maybe you answered it in a previous upload and my
dyslexia is blocking it. So please explain your reply in small words. Gracias

 

Actually, there were many floods.

And one of the biggest contenders for the "Biblical Flood" is the inundation of the Black Sea, in around 5500 BCE.

Remember, myths like this traveled a lot through that era and area. Just because the culture that first wrote it down is from an area, does not mean the myth originated in that area. And it was changed again even more when the Hebrews adopted it.

Interestingly enough, in their version the flood (and resting place) migrated over 400 miles north.

 

Oh really? Proof please?

And I would like to know how "cave evidence" could prove it, since all of the coastal caves from that era are now under water. In fact, all of the coastal land from that era is underwater.

San Francisco for example was not a bay when humans first arrived around 35kys. It was a river canyon, the actual coastline was over 20 miles out. We also know that the Channel Islands were connected to the mainland as recently as 15kya, because that is when the Channel Island Mammoth split off from their mainland cousins.

Sorry, geology and toxicology show you are wrong, as well as archaeology. What is your proof is this claim?

 

This topic has always fascinated me.

The question that archeology can't seem to answer is : why would you build with stones that even today we can't move, how did they move them, what kind of tools did they use to work andesite/marble, etc.

Here's my top list of "wtf?"

Puma Punku



Sacsayhuamán



The Temple of Jupiter in Baalbeck







Derinkuyu Underground City

 

Geology and archeology say one of us is wrong as do chemistry and carbon dating, but not me. If you want the information look for it yourself, but here is a clue even a 4th grader could figure out-- those cone shaped things upon which fossils collect in ocean caves don't continue to form when they are underwater.....

 

We'll never know if there was really a flood.

There are myths, yes.

 

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Ahhh, the lazy man's copout.

"I can not be bothered, look for yourself".

Well, that is not how it works bubba. Since you can not provide any real proof, this is over as far as I am concerned.

 

Well, I think during the Ice Age, the opposite was true. During Ice ages, sea level drops. During interglacials it rises.

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/gornitz_09/

 

Actually, it indicates the opposite. At least here in Florida, they have found evidence of now underwater caves being dry during the Ice age.

 

And off shore the evidence is the opposite so maybe you caves were blocked by ice and the water pushed out to the ones that weren't. Not every cave everywhere will experience the same effects, but that some of them would seem to indicate that the water went somewhere and where it was it was higher.

 

Evidence?

 

There are too many flood mythos for there not to be some historical thing behind them

I have a feeling it most likely was part of a great and quickly happening climate change of some kind

 

Yeah...weird isn't it. You would think floods happen all over the place....oh..wait.

 

Massive Earth Crust Displacement.
Not just millimeters of continental drift over time unimagined.
But, episodes of crust shifts at a greater rate than continental drift provides.

So when considering the flood, consider the elevation of that land at the time of the alleged flood.
Think of eras of civilizations that disappeared with a Massive Earth Crust Displacement event.

Atlantis was not some Greek Island.
Atlantis was beyond The Pillars of Hercules, Gibraltar. etc. etc.

 

Yeah...that certainly explains all those unbroken civilization time lines world wide that forgot to mention any of this on their historical records.

 

It explains all those civilizations have the same story.
And I speak of before those more recent, unbroken civilization time lines.

A few survivors knocked back to hunter gatherer existence and carrying a lore of
a time when . . .

Massive Earth Crust Displacement. Why not?

 

Why Not?

Primarily because the process is impossible under the geological conditions our planet exists with, that evidence of such a thing would be extremely clear in the geological record, that there would likely be no surviving civilizations, that such a thing would create FAR more than a flood, that fossilized remains would be mostly destroyed in sediment and soil mixing, that an extinction event would obviously occur, that this "Before" the unbroken timeline would eliminate said timeline completely and that conspiracy theory does not remove basic reality from existence.

 

Primarily, Oh Yeah!

Evidence is how you read it. Not one is looking to read it that way. Only the Orthodox way.
And so it goes.

I can't quite follow the last half of your upload.

BTW do you suppose there could have been civilizations along the Sahara until it suddenly dried up, forcing survivors to the Nile River Valley area. Likewise the Indus River, etc.

I was one of those kids who would look at a history book image depicting
"Barbarians" moving in on Rome. Obviously not club wielding, skin wearing Barbarians if they took on Rome so what were they. Not so Barbaric considering they worked metal and invented soap. Likewise the Vikings and :flagcanda: history. The presentation I got as a kid just never sat well with me and I researched. The Barbarians were not so barbaric. The Viking were a phenomena of their day and has lots of skeletons in their history closet.
With honest consideration, evidence of Massive Earth Crust Displacement events will be recognized. Somewhere in the Jungles of Asia by humankind older than any in Africa?
How about places where the most massive crust events are evident such as the Matterhorn or the Himalayas. But, then you have to read it right.

And so it goes.

 

You of course are free to believe whatever you desire, I and most others understand that Barbarian and Viking are but a term and that massive crust displacement is but a silly concept....the mantle is not silly putty. Tectonic plate movement does not occur en mass or at speed, otherwise our planet as we know it would be molten crust.

 

Archaeologists find 12,000-year-old pictograph at Gobekli tepe


Gobekli Tepe is a message about the origin of humankind. ... the significance of the birthday of Jesus is that it marks the beginning of the Age of Pisces ...

https://www.ancient-origins.net/new...-12000-year-old-pictograph-gobeklitepe-003441

 

There is no such thing there, Gobekli Tepe is only 5% dug out, and as of yet, there is no explanation of anything.
There are lots of animal carvings, but nothing to lead to any direction.

 

After the end of the last ice age, the water level of the earth rose about 400 feet, creating lots of coastal underwater cities.

I can visualize you are on a piece of land, watching the water rise, and your wife pokes you, "Honey...Time to build a boat".

You load it with your cows, chickens, pigs, etc, and head off to higher ground.