Wanted to chat about this but was surprised not to see a thread. Under a record turnout of 72.4%, Germans have veered away from normal control of the CSU coalition that has been in power pretty much since WW2. "Berlin (CNN)The ruling Christian Social Union lost its majority in the Bavarian state parliament on Sunday in an election that is likely to rattle German Chancellor Angela Merkel's fragile "grand coalition" government. The Christian Social Union, or CSU -- the Bavarian sister party to Merkel's conservative Christian Democrat Union, or CDU -- has dominated politics in the state since the end of World War II, ruling for all but three years over the course of nearly seven decades. But that changed Sunday. The CSU got only 37.2% of the vote and fringe parties won a huge boost, according to preliminary official results released by the Bavarian State Office of Statistics." https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/14/europe/bavaria-election-germany-results-grm-intl/index.html Election swings went as follows: CSU (center-right) --- 47.7% ---> 37.2% Green (center-left) --- 8.6% ---> 17.5% FW (center, center-right) --- 9.0% ---> 11.6% AfS (Right-wing, far-right) --- 0.0% ---> 10.2% SPD --- (center-left, far-left) ---> 20.6% ---> 10.9% FDP --- (center, center-right) ---> 3.3% ---> 5.1% Now remember my fellow Americans, European left/right is different than that of the USA, so do your due diligence before making some partisan claim. Does this preempt the elections coming up throughout Germany? Is it all or mostly because of immigration, or something else? Looking to hear from our German friends mostly, but love to hear anyone thoughts on the matter.
The irony is that the rise of the anti-immigrant parties in Europe is ENTIRELY because of the actions of the parties currently in power. The US is blessed in that our illegal immigrants are *********king hard workers with strong familial ties and values and (outside of the cartel ones) by and large obey the laws even if its mostly to stay under the radar. Meanwhile in Eurotrashland their immigrants are ****twats.
I guess we will see if her opponents can force a vote of No Confidence. Until then, we wait.*jeopardy theme*
Population replacement should be made illegal. I have somewhat of a novel idea, give young people the ability to have jobs that pay fair wages so that they can have families thus increasing the fertility reproduction rate concerning population growth where foreign immigration isn't needed any longer. It worked pretty well in the past but for some reason those in power scrapped all of that.
The opposite happens. The higher the standard of living the fewer the children. You no longer need extra kids in case some of them starve so you just have one of two of the little whiny little shi.......I mean adorable children. I don't care who does the population increasing so long as they share Western values about democracy and civil liberties which Mexicans do. Unfortunately Europes immigrants don't share those values and are in fact losers.
So you're a population replacement supporter and enthusiast, go figure. A nation cannot survive for long if it replaces its citizens with any kind of foreigners, any nation that does this has its priorities all wrong or worse its leadership is severely mentally ill.
Depends on the foreigners and if they assimilate or not. The US is lucky, by and large our immigrants assimilate very successfully and in fact more rapidly than immigrants in the past have. Europe on the other hand is set up so that immigrants do not assimilate and some of that is in part due to European policies and the rest is due to the nature of allowing dirt eating Muslims into their countries.
What does it profit a nation to gain access to the whole entire world only to lose its own entire native collective identity in trade?
The Germans are doing quite a lot to help immigrants integrate, officially at least. Organizations at all levels. http://www.bamf.de/DE/Willkommen/Ve...anisationen/migrantenorganisationen-node.html
I laugh at such notions of integration, it's pathetic and sad to see such delusional thinking at work.
There are some things here that are not 100% accurate. The CSU's losses are not really historical as claimed in the vid. In 2008, the CSU lost 17,3% in the Bavarian election, considerably more than last Sunday when they lost 10,5%. They had to form a coalition government with the FDP back in 2008 and a coalition government is extremely likey for Bavaria now after last Sunday's election, so that isn't really new. The new thing is that the CSU only received 37,2% of all the votes, that's an all time low. The SPD is not far-left, center-left would be accurate. The Green Party is usually considerably more left than the SPD, some people say that has changed over the past decade though. Since 1957, every Bavarian prime minister has been a CSU man and that won't change with the most recent election. Of course political opponents try to tie the outcome of the Bavarian election to Merkel, but the ones that are now in a weaker position are Horst Seehofer and Markus Söder, the later will definitely remain prime minister in Bavaria though. In general - and this is federal politics, not Bavarian politics - Merkel said last year that this will be her last term, so, naturally, potentional successors are already trying to position themselves. All in all, the outcome in Bavaria is pretty much what polls predicted. Immigration was ranked 4th among the most important topics during the campaigns. Education policy, affordable housing and environmental policy were considered the three top issues. https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten...ern-welchen-einfluss-die-asylfrage-hatte.html use google translate Edit: spelling
Coming Sunday will be a stress test for the CDU and SPD, both parties have dominated German politics since WWII. On Sunday there will be an election in Hessen (6 million, capital Wiesbaden, largest city Frankfurt am Main, GDP per capita 52.630$). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesse Latest polls indicate huge losses for the CDU and SPD which will have a significant impact on both parties. The feared worst case scenario is a debacle for both parties which could end Merkels government and an ending for the political careers of various leading politicians of both parties. Election 2013====2017 poll 19.10.2018 CDU 38,3%=====26% SPD 30,7%===== 21% FDP 5%========9% Grüne 11,1%====20% Die Linke 5.2%===8% AFD 4,1%======12% (AFD is not in the current parliament, 5% is needed) https://www.wahlrecht.de/ergebnisse/hessen.htm https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/...utschen-ab,ltw18-hessentrend-oktober-100.html The coalition of CDU and Grüne (green party) governs Hessen since 2013 and they are doing a quite good job but the low performance of both parties on national level could end it. The CDU governs Hessen since 1999 in different coalitians. Dominating issues are education (important for 40% of the voters), migration (29%), infrastructure and traffic (22%) and housing costs (21%). https://de.statista.com/infografik/15848/wichtigste-themen-landtagswahl-in-hessen/
