Angry owner blows up his Tesla electric car

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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Angry owner blows up his Tesla (VIDEO)

    A Finnish man who was shocked by the cost of a battery replacement for his Tesla Model S decided that blowing up his electric car with an Elon Musk dummy inside would be a more suitable solution.
    The owner said that he lost his faith in Musk’s company after he was told to pay 20,000 euros (around $22,500) for a new battery for his car. He was apparently among the early buyers of the Tesla Model S, which had been around since 2012, so his warranty had already expired.

    https://www.rt.com/news/543738-tesla-explosion-musk-finland/

    I keep telling people that the battery represents a large portion of the overall cost of an electric car, and these batteries will not last forever, they can only take so many electric charges before needing to be replaced.

    And unlike most manufactured goods, increasing scale of production is unlikely to bring down costs because these batteries use rare earth elements, and the availability of these ores is already in short supply right now and will be stretched even further if millions of these large batteries start being made. (There are other types of batteries but they are much heavier, or hold much less energy per unit of weight, making them either much less practical or limiting the driving range of the car)
     
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    That was a question he should have asked before spending the money on the vehicle to begin with
     
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    Thankfully, his wasted money will go towards research and development of more practical batteries.

    I am sure that will make him feel better. If not, there is also Mars!
     
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    The EV is a technological step backward, so such a purchase is unwise.
     
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    And isn't it amazing how many people want these electric cars to be forced on society, and yet at the same exact time these individuals have chosen, of their own free volition, not to buy an electric car?
    It's like when it actually comes to putting their own money where their mouth is, most of them are not willing to do it.

    Maybe they think the government will buy them an electric car or pay for the costs or something.
     
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    And no “angry owner” has ever blown up a car before? :roll::roll: :roll:

    AND, and and - it is from “RT” - you DI know that stands for “Russia Today”?
     
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    I laugh at those buying EV cars right now. Horrible, horrible choice IMO. Way too early in the ball game. If you want to save money on gas, just go get a little 4 cylinder hybrid or something. The cost of EV’s are ridiculously high, the range is piss-poor, charging stations are virtually nonexistent and the technology is too new. They haven’t even worked the kinks out yet. Maybe I’ll be a player in 15-20 years, who knows… but I’m not even close to considering buying something like that.
     
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    I've been considering a new Kia soul.

    I know a couple of people that own one they all love them. A surprising amount of room for such a small vehicle. 10-year bumper to bumper warranty. And gets 32 miles a gallon.

    You can get a brand new one for $20,000.

    I figure on maybe putting 8000 down, then payment should be reasonable.

    The only thing that sucks is I'd have to have full coverage and I'd be in debt for a number of years.

    Seems like six to 8,000 should get you something really decent used. But it's used, with all the potential pitfalls of that.
     
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    Often the cars blow themselves up.
    2021: The Year the Electric Vehicle Batteries Burned
    Eric Worrall
    Are electric vehicles inherently unsafe? This is a question more people may be asking, as realisation grows that 2021 was a horror year for battery fire vehicle recalls. . . .
     
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    Oh! dear! Wattsupmybutt as a source - one step worse than RT for misinformation
    https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/...nd-reports/US-Fire-Problem/osvehiclefires.pdf
     
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    Have you replaced a motor for an internal combustion auto lately or a transmission?
     
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    If they are so unsafe why are they used in the golfing industry and in warehouses as forklifts?
     
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    Not attacking you but gladly will attack AstroTurf sites being funded by big oil

    BTW next time please read the bolded section as it clearly states the majority of fires were due to poor maintenance
     
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    Inside a warehouse there's really no choice.
     
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    Actually, the bolded does not say that. And WUWT has no oil industry connection. That's just your attack strategy.
     
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    I have a car that ran for 218,700 miles before the Transmission failed which would cost 4,100 to repair by one quote and maybe cheaper elsewhere, yes this is MY car Saturn I am thinking about repairing or selling all the rest of the car in good condition.

    Which number is bigger?

    $22,500

    or,

    $4,100
     
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    The real problem with EV's is that they are less capable than the ICE vehicles they would replace. I see no reason to take that technological step backward.
     
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    Have you ever run an electric forklift as I have where the Battery is often a LEAD Acid battery (which is slow recharged) that is far safer than a Lithium Battery which is not used much because of its greater cost and greater danger level?

    Lead Acid batteries can be reconditioned, Lithium cannot.
     
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    She is ignoring the Numerous sources quotes from the following those that forms over 90% of the body of the WUWT article such as:

    Washington Post
    ABC News
    The Verge
    South China Morning Post
    German newspaper article

    Prejudice does prevent people from being better informed of the topics at hand.
     
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    Electric cars have existed since at least 1834, long before gasoline cars were invented. Since the beginning, they have faced the same hurdles they do today: limited driving range and a lack of charging infrastructure.Jul 18, 2019

    Electric cars have been around since before the US Civil War
     
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    Yes, and they remain a step backward.
     
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    So? All that proves is that electric vehicles have a place
     
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    I did not say they do not.
     
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    Why? If the same research and development had been put into electric cars as has been put into combustion engines we would have the problems solved
     

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