Angry owner blows up his Tesla electric car

Maybe, but I doubt it. And as another poster pointed out, EV's had a many-decades head start. All that can be said now is that EV's are less capable than ICE vehicles.

 

I was wondering who would bring that up. Firstly lead acid can only be reconditioned up to a point, secondly it is about the vehicle being “fit for purpose”. Do we really NEED to drive a big SUV, 5k to work and back every day? Using electric for short journeys makes all kinds of sense - especially in larger cities where pollution is problematic. Think of Asian cities going electric, and they are starting. It will not only be the air pollution that will clean up but noise pollution will abate as well

 

Laws and Regulations for Recycling Lithium Batteries
Federal law states that certain batteries must be recycled, and lithium batteries fit this criteria. The “Battery Act” (The Mercury-Containing and Rechargeable Battery Management Act of 1996) was set out to ensure that batteries such as lithium batteries in equipment can be recycled for reuse, instead of being released into the environment.
https://www.batteryrecyclersofameri...NO5QpTStK2_0ZAaOk1Z7ucXAblHm-MHQaAmUMEALw_wcB

 

No they didn’t
EVs have only really gotten a second look since the development of the “super magnets” They are decades behind ICEs

Will Ye or nil ye electric is coming

 

Trains use electric engines because they are more powerful than internal combustion.

 

There is some talk of reusing them for power storage since they do not have to maintain the same level of storage for that as they do in EVs

 

This is the most stupid question ever.

Because in those cases the battery is much smaller, the vehicle is much smaller and lighter weight, the battery does not need to store anywhere near as much energy because the range of these special vehicles is not very far. Most of these vehicles do not even use Lithium Ion batteries, because they do not need to, due to the much less demanding requirements.

If you had ever owned an electric golf cart you would know that you can't go really far with it, maybe just one single trip around in the neighborhood before it needs to be recharged, and the batteries are very heavy.

 

Another extremely uninformed comment.
Most trains that have electric motors use a diesel engine to power an onboard generator to produce the electricity to power the electric motors.
Or it gets electric power through the rails. The thing in common with both is there is no battery.

The issue isn't the electric motor - it's the power supply.

 

No, that's just wishful thinking on your part.

The first electric cars were actually around before the first internal combustion engines.
There is a reason the internal combustion engine won out.

You keep hoping for some technological breakthrough in electric power storage. Well, don't let policy get ahead of the science.
Many progressive greenies are impatient and can't seem to wait... even when it doesn't make sense right now.

 

Yes they do. I'll agree with that. No one forced these warehouses to use electric forklifts.

Now the question is what their proper place actually is.

The post office already started to convert some of their carriers to electric vehicles in the 80s, because the vehicles had to continually stop and go so frequently - had nothing to do with environmental considerations.

This is one of the advantages hybrids have.

 

Lithium Batteries are NOT reconditioned back to full use which is different in being recycled since Lithium is a single use material it doesn't get recycled anyway which is too expensive and very difficult.

Here is a LINK about the possibility of being able to save some of the Lithium which is currently not being saved during the recycling process.

 

Well, let's be fair here, the electric battery on a forklift in a warehouse - if it's Lithium Ion - is much smaller than the batteries that would be in an electric car.

Also if it runs out of power you can swap out the battery. All the time the forklift was running, the alternate battery packs were plugged in being charged.

 

Propane.

 

The go 18 holes.

 

Hmmm. Propane to fuel a forklift indoors?

 

Yep.....it is a clean burning and safe fuel for forklifts indoors and outdoors.

 

Exhaust?

 

So, the battery in hos $100 000 car lasted 10 years, and new one would have cost more then the car was worth at that age. When a car hits the 10 yr mark, then some expensive repairs start popping up. Transmission replacement can be $5000, and lot of 10 yr old cars are not worth that much, but people still opt to do the repair, as opposed to buying a new car.

Cost of battery replacement in an electric car is about $5000, while estimated gasoline savings are about $10 000 in 10 yrs.

 

Look dude, I worked in factories and a foundry for 18 years. Propane fueled fork lifts are the norm.

 

It was a reasonable question.

 

Buyer beware.

...I thought it was common knowledge that there's no such thing as a 'forever battery?' Does this guy not use cell phones or power tools?

 

Apologies, you might not inhabit my world.

 

There are almost “forever batteries” but they are large and are called “flow Redox” batteries. Look them up they are fascinating and we will be seeing a lot more bring used as grid storage

 

But isn't that the thing though? A fossil fuel or natural gas the energy is stored in such a way as to conserve most of it. Electricity just turns into nothing.

 

We should have built storage into the electrical system decades ago. It is interesting that the Ford “Lightning” is sold out on the basis that it can, in an emergency, power at least some of the home for a while